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My orangery... with no orange tree!

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  • TagwexTagwex Posts: 44
    Skandi said:
    Apricots, peaches, almonds and olives is what I would have in there, along with the grape you have and possibly a fig though they also want to get big.
    Would cherries and plums even like the warm temperatures inside there? and how are you going to pollinate everything?
    Leave the doors open and let the insects in.
  • TagwexTagwex Posts: 44
    Tagwex said:
    Nollie said:
    Yes cutting the leader stem out of your plums and cherries is essential, often already done when you buy them, unless they are just 1st year maiden plants. I would do that this summer. Unless they are on pixie stock they will still want to get too large, I think, for that space and don’t need or want to be inside. Have you no suitable space outside, is that why you need to grow them indoors? Also I wonder why your plum guy sold you two of the same variety? Check if Mallard is self-fertile, otherwise you will need another compatible tree for a pollinating partner. Even self-fertile trees fruit better with a partner.
    Yep. Mallard is self fertilizing.
    CORRECTION. I meant to say self sterile.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Tagwex said:
    I only got brown turkey as it was all that was left at the very end of the bare root season.
    That's fine, Brown Turkey is good  ...  and you've got loads of room there ... and plenty of time to shop for something even more luscious ... you may find this of interest (even if it's English-centric)

    https://realenglishfruit.co.uk/how-to-grow-figs/

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  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    Tagwex said:
    steephill said:
    The apricot and peach are the only ones I would consider for indoor living, the rest of the trees should be outside. Do you know what rootstock they are on? As you already have a fan trained tree on the wall you will need to chose which form to use on any trees you add.
    The kiwis could be trained up the glass sides but they are very vigorous and will need regular attention to keep them in bounds.
    Have you considered melons? They would do well in such a fabulous glasshouse.
    I'm putting a wigwam around the kiwis. Melon seeds just cannot be got around here this year, see another thread. I did manage to get a packet of water melons though as a last resort  I wanted honey dew. The nursery where purchased and a horticulturist friend has advised that all will be ok in the orangery.
    Could you get a honeydew melon from the supermarket and use some of its seeds?
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  • TagwexTagwex Posts: 44
    JennyJ said:
    Tagwex said:
    steephill said:
    The apricot and peach are the only ones I would consider for indoor living, the rest of the trees should be outside. Do you know what rootstock they are on? As you already have a fan trained tree on the wall you will need to chose which form to use on any trees you add.
    The kiwis could be trained up the glass sides but they are very vigorous and will need regular attention to keep them in bounds.
    Have you considered melons? They would do well in such a fabulous glasshouse.
    I'm putting a wigwam around the kiwis. Melon seeds just cannot be got around here this year, see another thread. I did manage to get a packet of water melons though as a last resort  I wanted honey dew. The nursery where purchased and a horticulturist friend has advised that all will be ok in the orangery.
    Could you get a honeydew melon from the supermarket and use some of its seeds?
    It's worth a try. Somebody else suggested that too. My only concern was whether or not the seeds are sterile which happens a lot in commercially grown veg.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    As I suggested on your other thread, see if they float in water. If squash seeds float theirs likely to be duds. 

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  • TagwexTagwex Posts: 44
    As I suggested on your other thread, see if they float in water. If squash seeds float theirs likely to be duds. 
    Noted. Weekly shop tomorrow. 
  • EustaceEustace Posts: 2,290
    JennyJ said:
    Could you get a honeydew melon from the supermarket and use some of its seeds?
    I have tried many times to grow from the melon seeds from the SM; but failed every time. Might be because these melons are harvested before they ripen and the seeds within are not fully mature.

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