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  • FlyDragonFlyDragon Posts: 834
    FlyDragon said:
    FlyDragon said:
    Tagwex said:
    Despite what other comments say, rats are vermin and should be annihilated on sight. Do you all want Weils disease, not very nice I can assure you? Far from cute, the damage they can cause has to be seen to be believed. Don't bother with expensive extermination companies or poison. Get some meal, barley, wheat etc. and mix either cement or hardwall plaster in with it and leave a bowl of water close to it, cover the bait so as birds cannot access it. Rats problem over with very quickly. 
    All wild animals carry some disease and/or parasites.  That's why we don't go around handling them or licking them! 
    But we do handle things they may have wee'd on ... my schoolfriend's seven year old brother died from Weils disease caught while playing in the family garden ... the ditch along the roadside had rats living there.  
    That's very sad but incredibly rare.


    It's rare because of the way rat populations have been controlled over the years. 
    Is it?  I don't think wild rat populations are particularly under control.  I think its rare because of improvements in sanitation, hygiene and awareness over the last couple of centuries.  We don't drink out of or wash in unmanaged dirty water anymore. 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited May 2021
    Ask your local water authority how much is spent on controlling rats in sewers, drains, river banks, canals etc.  I think you'll be surprised.  

    This may be of interest

    https://www.stwater.co.uk/my-supply/waste-water/dealing-with-rats-at-your-property/

    https://www.stockport.gov.uk/rats/rat-overview

    and some light bedtime reading "Urban Rat Infestations - Society’s Response and the Public Health Implications" http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/854991/1/27558164.pdf

     :) 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FlyDragonFlyDragon Posts: 834
    Ask your local water authority how much is spent on controlling rats in sewers, drains, river banks, canals etc.  I think you'll be surprised.  

    This may be of interest

    https://www.stwater.co.uk/my-supply/waste-water/dealing-with-rats-at-your-property/

    https://www.stockport.gov.uk/rats/rat-overview

    and some light bedtime reading "Urban Rat Infestations - Society’s Response and the Public Health Implications" http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/854991/1/27558164.pdf

     :) 
    Fair enough, just makes you admire them more though!  All that effort to get rid and there's still bloody loads of 'em everywhere!  A bit like my grudging admiration for the marestail in my garden although to be fair I do get rid of that. 

    The links also back up my theory that better sanitation and cleaner drinking water is largely responsible for the fact that we don't catch water borne disease nearly so much anymore. 
  • barry islandbarry island Posts: 1,847
    Quite often a good forking of the compost bin gets rid of rats.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    FlyDragon said:
    Ask your local water authority how much is spent on controlling rats in sewers, drains, river banks, canals etc.  I think you'll be surprised.  

    This may be of interest

    https://www.stwater.co.uk/my-supply/waste-water/dealing-with-rats-at-your-property/

    https://www.stockport.gov.uk/rats/rat-overview

    and some light bedtime reading "Urban Rat Infestations - Society’s Response and the Public Health Implications" http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/854991/1/27558164.pdf

     :) 
    Fair enough, just makes you admire them more though!  All that effort to get rid and there's still bloody loads of 'em everywhere!  A bit like my grudging admiration for the marestail in my garden although to be fair I do get rid of that. 

    The links also back up my theory that better sanitation and cleaner drinking water is largely responsible for the fact that we don't catch water borne disease nearly so much anymore. 
    Sanitation has improved and drinking water is better because rats are kept out of the water supply, and prevented as far as is possible from infesting the drains and sewers. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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