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Dahlia veterans - help for my sad Dahlias please!

Afternoon all

Please can you advise on my sad dahlias. Healthy overwintered tubers, tidied and potted in MPC on 17 March. Kept indoors under a table by radiators since (about 3 1/2 weeks) and watered lightly, having read that dahlias require heat to prompt growth and not light.

I did the same last year with success, but hardened off with more watering far earlier when they were much smaller. This year have remained by radiators until now and show signs of stress: lower leaves missing, some deformed leaves, wilting, probably etiolated.

The first two pics are of Black Jack, the third Mystic Enchantment. They are now 55cm and 45cm tall respectively. Should I pinch out at this height, regardless of not having been hardened off? Too stressful? Plus I can’t work out if I’ve reached the recommended four sets of leaves for pinching out, given the stunted/deformed lower sets!

They got a good bottom-up water and an initial hour outside today before returning indoors but a cooler place. I’ll harden off cautiously from now. Anything else I can do to do help?

Perhaps give the most droopy, whose stems threaten to snap, a little framework until they (hopefully) stiffen up?

Many thanks from this relative dahlia novice. Cheers, Johnny




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  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I would say too much warmth and not enough light making them grow leggy and weak. Do you have a cooler lighter place where you could put them, maybe a windowsill in a cool room, to get them gradually used to cooler conditions?
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  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Always happy to help a relative,haha, I have never known anyone keep them by a radiator,but I have got about 20,yes, light not heat
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    Have you got a window sill or at least somewhere close to a window that you could move them to ?
    I think moving them straight outside, even for only an hour, is too much of a shock at the moment. 
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    No don't put them outside,
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Kept indoors under a table by radiators since (about 3 1/2 weeks) and watered lightly, having read that dahlias require heat to prompt growth and not light.

    Whoever wrote that info has got it the wrong way round.

    They've now grown out of proportion to how they should be, struggled for light and weak from too much heat. 
    I would put them somewhere cooler and light, I would also cut the middles right out as I’ve drawn in the photo.  They need a bigger pot, drop them in a bit deeper.


    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Lyn said:
    Kept indoors under a table by radiators since (about 3 1/2 weeks) and watered lightly, having read that dahlias require heat to prompt growth and not light.

    Whoever wrote that info has got it the wrong way round.

    They've now grown out of proportion to how they should be, struggled for light and weak from too much heat. 
    I would put them somewhere cooler and light, I would also cut the middles right out as I’ve drawn in the photo.  They need a bigger pot, drop them in a bit deeper.


    Many thanks for the helpful pointers. I’ve abandoned plans to harden them off, moved them to a light window sill away from the big heat and will keep them reasonably watered.

    Lyn, thanks v. much for the extra thoughts - I’ll cut the middles out of the worst offenders. Just to clarify, they won’t rot if I bury, say, an extra inch or two of stem below the new compost in a deeper pot?
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Next year s tip from my Sarah raven,I do,pot them up in march, they need to be on somewhere frost free,and you cover the pots exclude light I use the plant saucers.leave them about 10 days, you should get pale growth,if not cover them back up,once you remove the cover they will darken up
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    I did not put MY Sarah raven,it was the phone
  • Next year s tip from my Sarah raven,I do,pot them up in march, they need to be on somewhere frost free,and you cover the pots exclude light I use the plant saucers.leave them about 10 days, you should get pale growth,if not cover them back up,once you remove the cover they will darken up
    Thanks Nanny and happy gardening!
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