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Which Hyacinthoides is this?

Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,254
edited April 2021 in Plants
Just came across this newcomer to my garden. I want to give it a chance before deciding whether to chuck it to the compost. Is it:
  • Hyacinthoides non-scripta, the common bluebell
  • Hyacinthoides hispanica, the Spanish bluebell
  • something else


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  • steephillsteephill Posts: 2,841
    It can be hard to tell sometimes. Tubular flowers on one side - non-scripta. Broad leaves, 3cm, hispanica. So maybe a hybrid. Any scent? Scented, non-scripta.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Definitely not pure non-scripta but maybe not pure Spanish either.  Doesn't look like any of the scillas so I reckon it's a hybrid.
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  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,254
    Thanks for trying @Obelixx & @steephill. The leaves are fairly large. I'll have a sniff tomorrow. Could it be a horticultural variety? I'm sure I never planted it so it must have come from a neighbour 's garden.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I believe the defining attribute is the colour of the pollen

    https://www.plantlife.org.uk/uk/blog/whats-the-difference-between-spanish-bluebells-and-english-bluebells

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,254
    Thanks for the link, @Dovefromabove
    Just had a sniff, this specimen has a very faint smell, reminiscent of the scent of Hyacinthoides non-scripta.
    Took a close-up scan of dissected flower, showing blue anthers.
    Conclusion, this looks more like Hyacinthoides hispanica, than Hyacinthoides non-scripta.
    I'm not keeping it. ;)

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    I don't blame you @Papi Jo !
    When I moved here about 35 years ago, there were a few patches of native bluebells in parts of the garden which hadn't been cultivated in a decade or more.  Every year, they came up, looked wonderful and didn't noticeably spread.  Then I bought a 'bulb collection' from one of the big names which contained Spanish bluebells.  30 years later, hybrids are  in all of my borders and every time I plant or move something, the secondary task is to dig out the bluebells.  I think there are still some unhybridized ones, but I no longer bother checking and just remove them whenever seen.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
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