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Planting/sowing seeds

Hello,

I’m new to gardening so apologies if this is a silly question but I have just covered my beds with Gro-Sure Farmyard manure and was wondering if it’s ok to plant and sow seeds directly into the manure? These would be mostly perennial plants, with the odd annual thrown in.

 Many thanks in advance.
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  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    edited March 2021
    I wouldn’t sow directly into manure, its too rich for tiny seedlings.  If you want to sow directly into the ground I would either dig the manure in or (next year) put it down in autumn, so the winter gives it a chance to breakdown and become incorporated in the soil.

    You say you are sowing perennials?  I normally start my perennials off in pots, and move them on into bigger pots a few times before planting them out.  I have more success with them if I nurture them carefully for a bit, and that is easier in pots than in the ground.
  • Mary370Mary370 Posts: 2,003
    I gave up direct sowing........ between the weather and insects, very few seeds survived.
  • Thanks.

    I would be planting bought perennials into the bed, not raising from seeds. So, for bought annuals and perennials, it's ok to plant them straight into the beds?

    Would I be able to make little clearings in the manure to pop a few annual seeds in or shall I just not bother this year?

    Cheers.
  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    I’d make clearings in the soil to plant your perennials.

    I don’t think even annual seeds will like pure manure.  But you can try 😀
  • Just so I’m clear (like I say, I’m new to gardening so don’t want to bodge anything!), if I buy some plants, I can dig a hole in the beds as normal and backfill? 

    With regards to annual seeds, if I started them off in biodegradable pots and then planted into the beds once established, would that give them more of a chance?

    Thanks for all the help!
  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    Spot on for the annual seeds.

    For the perennials clear a circle of the manure,  plant in the clearing, and don’t push the manure back around the newly planted plant.  The goodness will then gradually disperse into the soil around your plants, but don’t let it touch the stems of newly planted perennial plants - it could “burn” them. Good luck 😉 
  • Hi @Wildlifelover! No stupid questions here. I'm by no means an expert but hopefully I can help.

    I would suggest you work the manure into the soil a fair few inches first, before making planting pockets for the perennial plants, and backfilling with the same soil/manure mix. Leaving the manure on top is best done during the Autumn when it can, over the winter, works its way down into the soil over a few months of rain and worms. If it's left sitting on top over the summer, the best it will do is stop the soil drying out; it probably won't do too much to enrich the soil for a few weeks or months. All this is presuming you bought the manure to enrich the soil and not simply as mulch? If just as a mulch to help with moisture retention, then I would try and just plant into the soil beneath, and move the manure around the base of the plant but without it touching it.

    Regarding the seed, planting them in small pots (either biodegradable or plastic and popping them out) sounds like a good plan to me! That's what I'll be doing with my foxglove plants. Just make sure after planting anything outside you keep the area well watered while they 'establish' themselves (which is usually clear when you see new growth - leaves/flowers - forming). Depending on what sort of seeds you are sowing, you might be able to direct sow too. I have a wildflower area that is mostly made up of direct sown seed, and lots of annuals can be sown direct according to their instructions, but I guess perhaps there's a better chance of success growing in pots first...

    Best of luck  :)
    "If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need"
  • Thanks for all the great advice. 

    I should have mentioned that the manure is used as a mulch as the soil ok to be fair. As it’s well rotted, can that still cause damage if in contact with plant stems/leaves? 

    Thanks again!
  • I have been informed by Westland who produce the farmyard manure that as it is fully rotted, for 18 months before it is bagged, there should be no burn to the plants if they are in contact with the manure - can I take that as gospel?!

     Thanks.
  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    Go for it 🤣
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