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Help with perennials for pollinators in a small patch.

Happy Spring to you Beautiful Gardening Gurus!

Please can you help me by providing suggestions on what I could potentially plant in this little patch that is approx. 1m x 2m. Currently there are 3 hydrangeas and a rose in this little area. At the back is a Bay Bush that has a rather woody Rosemary underneath that still produces either fresh sprigs for cooking. I would like to remove the Hydrangeas and the Rose and put in plants that will provide food for the bees, butterflies and, the moths. This area is west south west facing but due to the surrounding buildings starts to get the sun for midday onwards in summer.

The garden is predominantly viewed from the patio area so as far as heights of the plants go, it isn't a major issue if taller plants are in the area of the pole (yet to be painted) and the bird feeder. For example I was thinking that I could plant some Allium Giganteum there to add a little interest. I know that it is probably best to select a couple of different specimens and fill the area with them. As it is a small area I would need plants that would attract the widest selection of pollinators. Maybe underplant this area with some plants that can provide some food or shelter for the pollinators out of the Spring and Summer growing season. I will also look to utilise the corner with the tap by planting up some more pots. Of the current pot collection I have a Penstemon, Lavender, Phlox and a Salvia. Perhaps having a pot on the ground with something with a bit of height and then something that would do will in direct full summer sun on the shelf - I'm not sure, just thinking out loud. I'm not an experienced gardener just looking to help out the wildlife in my first proper garden.

Thank you for any suggestions.

James 
 
 



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  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    Nepeta "Six Hills Giant" is the plant that attracts the most insects in my garden. Even on overcast days it is awash with bees. A mature specimen could take up most of the area you wish to plant. It could be underplanted with spring bulbs to give some colour when the plant is dormant over winter.

  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    These are the top bee plants from a trial done by Rosi Rollings. The rankings are for no. of bee visits per year, so flowers with a very long season of flowering have done particularly well. I'm sure adding things like alliums would be great, cos even if they flower fairly briefly they extend the season.


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  • Hi thanks for quick responses. The Nepeta "Six Hills Giant" is a great suggestion but it is popular with cats as the name alludes to. We have a few neighbouring cat owners and wouldn't like to encourage them into the garden only due to the fact that it is a small one and we have a nesting pair of blue tits (and maybe Robins this year, they have discovered the other box) and would want to endanger them. 

    Thanks for the list of plants also, I will have a look through it. Geraniums are always good 👍. We have a shade loving variant in a pot, just starting to regrow.
  • purplerallimpurplerallim Posts: 5,287
    One of the bee favourites in my garden are the Aquilegia.  Another is the allium Nectaroscordum Siculum or sicilian honey garlic the bees go mad for it.
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    edited March 2021
    Is their scope to extend the bed? Double the size, and you're providing double the nectar.

    I forgot to add, it probably isn't worth worrying about larval food plants in a small patch. Butterflies and moths are often specific about where they lay their eggs, and will probably prefer a large stand of whatever the food plant is, so that the caterpillars don't run out of food.

    Maybe you have another spot that you could devote to a larval food plants, say in a rough grass area? Common bird's foot trefoil is a good one, it supports a range of butterfly species.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • @purplerallim thanks for the suggestions. I think the Nectaroscordum Siculum would add a lot of interest to the area instead off the Allium Giganteum that I was considering. 

    @Loxley, no unfortunately there in no room for expansion of the bed. Where it is at the moment did used to be part of the patio until the previous owners removed it. There could be a bit more grass the could be claimed going towards the fence around the Bay and the 2 remaining/redundant patio slabs taken up but I think that it wouldn't be a great deal of room. Perhaps 1 x 0.5 meters , if not less.

    As we are so tight for space in the garden, we sowed a shady variety of wild flower seed at the back of the garden last year where we had a bare patch of soil under, what i think is, a young twisted willow. I'm not sure how well they will do but was worth a try. Does the Common bird's foot trefoil needs full sun? We also have a woodland-y bed that doesn't get any sun due to the surrounding walls and buildings in which I planted Lungwort, Blue Bells and, Wood Anemone in an effort to get some colour and early nectar available in the garden.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one but i find it so difficult to make a decision on plants for beds trying to workout what will look good where. At least with pots you can move them around lol.
  • Just a wild thought (pun intended) but have you thoughts about wildflower seeds? It would be super cheap and you'd get a mix of annuals and perennials. We have a larger patch we used them on, and used a mix of BeeBombs and other annual seeds, which worked great for us and provide great variety ideal for bees, butterflies and other bugs. There's all shapes and sizes of flowers which work for various pollinators over the spring, summer and early autumn. Then in winter, just leave all the foliage in place that they can use as shelter. Apart from the removal of the main dead growth in early spring, and some deadheading over the summer to encourage new flowers, it's super easy maintenance too. Just an idea  :)
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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    @purplerallim thanks for the suggestions. I think the Nectaroscordum Siculum would add a lot of interest to the area instead off the Allium Giganteum that I was considering. 

    @Loxley, no unfortunately there in no room for expansion of the bed. Where it is at the moment did used to be part of the patio until the previous owners removed it. There could be a bit more grass the could be claimed going towards the fence around the Bay and the 2 remaining/redundant patio slabs taken up but I think that it wouldn't be a great deal of room. Perhaps 1 x 0.5 meters , if not less.
    Can't you dig up the lawn?
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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Just a thought but I have two mophead hydrangeas which easily get to 1m x 2m all by themselves and my hydrangea paniculatas will do that when they're more mature too so you definitely need to be planning a way to extend that bed or moving one of the hydrangeas sooner or later.
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  • Loxley said:
    @purplerallim thanks for the suggestions. I think the Nectaroscordum Siculum would add a lot of interest to the area instead off the Allium Giganteum that I was considering. 

    @Loxley, no unfortunately there in no room for expansion of the bed. Where it is at the moment did used to be part of the patio until the previous owners removed it. There could be a bit more grass the could be claimed going towards the fence around the Bay and the 2 remaining/redundant patio slabs taken up but I think that it wouldn't be a great deal of room. Perhaps 1 x 0.5 meters , if not less.
    Can't you dig up the lawn?
    No not really, i would guess the lawn is only 16m2 at the most and we ideally would like to keep it. Based on the suggestions it would probably be best choosing one or two plants from the list you posted originally and sticking with that. As well as adding a couple more pots in where I can. I going to have a look this evening if i can borrow a little bit more of the lawn to see if i can eek some more bedding area. 
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