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What is this spreading plant?

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  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    I've got the variegated form, and it's a complete pain. It spreads everywhere, grows large and is proving very difficult to get rid of.
  • fizzylizfizzyliz Posts: 398
    peteS said:
    I've got the variegated form, and it's a complete pain. It spreads everywhere, grows large and is proving very difficult to get rid of.
    @peteS oh dear! 😬
  • bertrand-mabelbertrand-mabel Posts: 2,697
    With Arum you need to make sure that you cut off the flower spikes before they seed otherwise....yes they are all over your garden.
    Italicum is one that isn't invasive.
    The other is the wild form and can be very invasive so take care.
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    @bertrand-mabel...mine is the Italicum type I believe, and it's incredibly invasive.
  • bertrand-mabelbertrand-mabel Posts: 2,697
    I can only say that with us it isn't, whereas maculatum here is very invasive and we can only control it by pulling up the leaves when we can see them. Digging them out is a no go as they are so often growing in amongst plants that we want.
  • fizzylizfizzyliz Posts: 398
    @bertrand-mabel how would I figure out which type it is? The rate it’s spreading though I’d guess it would be the invasive variety. 
  • Is it really arum? It looks very like what I have in my garden. Bought under the name "asarum something or other". It never gets more than about 20 cm tall and if you look in the middle of the clump you'll find these brown flower buds with long 'tails', as they develop they look like mice diving down a hole. See pics. It's a pain, I thought I'd eradicated this clump about 2 years ago and it's come back again! Lots of horrid little rhizomes to  get rid of.
    I do have arum italicum, which is fairly well behaved, and the arum maculatum from my neighbour's side which I pull out when I see it. Neither forms clumps like this.
  • fizzylizfizzyliz Posts: 398
    Arum maculatum, aka 'cuckoo pint' and 'lords and ladies' amongst many other common names.  It is difficult to control as weedkiller doesn't seem to work and if you dig them out, they have a small knobbly soil-coloured corm and these usually break-off and remain in the soil.  Some folk like them and they're good for wildlife, although the red berries in summer are poisonous to us and every seed seems to be viable, so they spread easily.
    All you can do is dig them up from where they are unwelcome and try to get the corms out (that's also the only part which will have any roots on.)  Because more will keep appearing in future years, just pull those up when seen and they will eventually give-up. :)
    @BobTheGardener I’ve just dug up a very tiny two leaves piece... is this the corm?
  • bertrand-mabelbertrand-mabel Posts: 2,697
    @fizzyliz the maculatum is usually green leaves but they can have blotches whereas the italicum is varieagted.
    You just need to pull the leaves off as soon as you see them but if they are in an area that you can dig then give it a go.
    But you will need to keep on being vigilant.
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    Yes, that's what mine look like, but usually a lot deeper in the soil (20cm+) so the one there may be a baby.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
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