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Home-made compost

I have a problem with my home-made compost. Every time I ask about it, I get the same advice: mix weed-pickings, spent flower plants, grass-cuttings, etc. with shredded paper and cardboard in a big pile and leave it to heat up to kill off any pathogens and seeds. I’ve been doing this for several years and always with the same results – the resulting compost produces so many weeds either for mulching or as seed compost that I can’t use it. My heap is surely big enough – about 100 cubic feet –  although I have to admit that it doesn’t get regularly turned over as advised. Is this the problem?

One reason for my failure may be because I throw in weed roots as well and this includes a fair amount of soil. Also, if I am disposing of a pot plant, I normally empty the whole contents of the pot into the compost heap, soil and all. Does the soil stop the heap from heating up? Another theory I have that the weather in the Scottish Central belt is too cold so the heap never gets hot enough. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Because of the weeds my compost produces, I bought a soil sterilizer a few years ago and now spend time in the winter sterilizing my compost (by raising its temperature to 180F for about half-an-hour), This certainly kills the weed seeds, but the resulting compost doesn’t work as well as commercially bought {peat-free!) compost, I still need to add inorganic fertilizer. My query here is whether the sterilizer also kills off the beneficial microbes. Any ideas?


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  • InglezinhoInglezinho Posts: 568
    edited February 2021
    You answered your own question. Don't throw in weeds. I note you are from a cold area. Try and find an old large container, site it in a sunny position and keep it dry (and warm) with a lid during the winter. Good luck!
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  • thrxvsthrxvs Posts: 32
    You shouldn't need to add things like soil sterilizer because you are likely to create more problems that way, figure out the cause of the problem and keep it natural. Your compost is not getting hot enough to kill the weed seeds. Try and figure out why that is, adding the soil is probably not helping. How is the ratio of green to brown, from what you have written there seems to be a lot of brown and not too much green. Turning it will help but not too much if the content mix is not right. We have a similar issue which can be hard to rectify,  and find that it is always a challenge to find enough green. Watch Charles Dowding videos on youtube about how to get the right compost mix, that may help to troubleshoot.
  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    It can be really difficult to get the heat to kill off seeds and I don't try. My garden is bursting with seeds that want to grow into weeds and the compost heap is no better than the rest, so I hoe and weed regularly. It must mean the stuff has nutrients. If you want good compost, and mine is excellent, you need to break up lumps of grass cuttings, root balls from containers and chop up sticks and thick stems. Never add perennial weed roots. Mix it all up like a Christmas pudding, making sure it's damp, leave it a few weeks and mix it again. Bingo.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited February 2021
    I learned the hard way too Bob.
    My compost looks great, but a few weeks after spreading it there are weeds everywhere.
    So as @Inglezinho says above - don't include any weeds - it's the only way to be sure.
    If you're prepared to turn the heap every few weeks then weed seeds will mostly be killed. I don't have that level of dedication, so I leave the weeds out

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  • Morning 

    I know plenty of people who do add weeds to their compost heap. I dont, for the reason you are explaining. I never have added weeds to it. There are still plenty of other ingredients that can be added to get a decent pile and get plenty of compost at the end. 

    My thoughts on it are, I spend a lot of my gardening time trying to control the weeds (i have extra strength weeds in my garden). I dont want to do anything to ruin my efforts.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I throw pretty much all weeds into my compost, except bindweed and ground elder roots. 
    I've never had a problem with mine.
    Devon.
  • What works for me is to put weeds in a green bin and leave them for up to a year or so - ideally I'd fill it with water to help them rot down. I then add this to the compost heap.
  • Thank you all for your helpful comments, although I doubt if I can follow them all, particularly “regular turning”.

    I agree with Hostafan1 and I certainly don’t put perennial weeds into my compost heap - they go into Stirling Council’s garden waste bin. I'm happy to do this because I know that their method of composting works better than mine (I’ve seen their compost heaps – they’re 20 feet high!). However, Hostafan’s claim to have no problems maybe stems from the superior temperatures in the South of England (at the moment the temperature in my unheated greenhouse plummets to 20F at night!). I also envy Posy, with her belief in hoeing, this just doesn’t work up here, given our persistent rain.

    Pete8 and Inglezinho advise against putting weeds into the heap, however, although I wasn’t thinking about perennial weeds, only the annual ones (Hairy Bittercress is my real enemy), I'll try StephenTame’s suggestion of getting the weeds to rot before adding them to the heap. 

    Thrxvs  and others tell me not to add the soil and this too is something I’ll keep somewhere else in future. I’ll also have a look at the Charles Dowding videos  and try to get a better “mix” of the ingredients.

    So thank you, all. I’ll maybe come back next year and tell you how I get on.

    Bob
  • BigladBiglad Posts: 3,265
    I'm another who doesn't put weeds in my compost bin. Or grass cuttings for that matter. All in the council garden waste here. Rabbit hutch sweepings, food waste (not meat or fish) and cardboard are the main ingredients from which I've started to get decent stuff out of the bottom of the dalek.
    East Lancs
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    There is a big difference here between hot compost and warm or cold. Charles D has big bins that get very hot and so he recommends putting everything in, which I think is a bit sweeping. I have small cooler bins and don't put weeds in.

    On a separate note, I do wonder about slug eggs. The slugs love my (plastic) bins and I do wonder if their population rockets when I spread the made compost out on the garden.
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