No - one or two are very happy in alkaline, but most are happiest in neutral. Slight acidity is fine. Chalky soils are no good for them though, which also tends to be alkaline. Extremes are the problem - very acidic is no use either. I probably should have clarified that previous post a bit more
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Surprised to hear that about the chalk? I live in a very chalky area, (a fact I was reminded of yesterday when I was digging a hole and had to bring out the mattock to slowly chip through a layer of what appeared to be almost solid chalk about a foot down!)
I have a number of magnolias one mature that was here when we moved in and three I’ve planted..all appear to be doing very well...I think they are lovely trees, look fantastic when in bloom
I’ve seen a lot of magnolias growing in people’s front gardens so pretty sure they grow well here
A (possibly obvious) point that I hadn’t really considered - will a multi-stem tree provide a much wider coverage compared to a single stem tree of the same variety? I think I’d expected a single stem tree to just branch out higher up but I guess it makes sense that the overall canopy width would be reduced too?
Most pictures of mature magnolias that provide the wide canopy that I’m looking for appear to be multi-stem.
Multi stem would certainly give better coverage, but perhaps not needed so much if you aren't planting in the corner. Just check the variety before you decide. As I said, some will take alkaline soil and some won't. I think it's M. grandiflora which is fine in alkaline soil. If in doubt, you can get one of those testing kits. M. stellata might be a good option if you don't want something so big, which would be better if you're pulling the tree forward. They flower in spring. Grandiflora, gets quite large over time, although it has the advantage of being evergreen. There's a few named varieties too. They're later flowering - summer/autumn.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Before you decide on your tree, take a look at pictures of them when they’re not in bloom ... that’s what they look like most of the time ... the flowers appear for a glorious but brief window of time ... often no longer than a fortnight (depending on spring winds and rain).
Choose a tree you like the look of all year round ... the flowers are a bonus. 😊
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Indeed @Dovefromabove. Like Camellias [and with those - that's if they don't get annihilated by the weather as soon as the flowers appear ] and many other shrubs/trees. Dull when they aren't in flower, so they need other planting around them. It wouldn't really be my choice either, especially in a smaller space, and not unless other plants would take over. Some bulbs and perennials, and clematis to grow through it, for example
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Thanks all! All very good advice and lots to think about 🙂
I haven’t had a chance to go out and try the cane yet to get an idea of size and location (I’ll blame that on all the rain!) but I think I’m leaning towards a single stem tree planted forward which will allow bulbs/perennials to be planted nearby (which will be trickier with the multi stem).
Thanks again for all the advice and pointers, I’ll try to remember to update this thread once I have something planted! 😊
It's not really trickier with a multi stemmed shrub or tree - you can still plant all sorts of other things around and nearby. The stems come from a single point - it's not like a bamboo or a cornus , where you have multiple stems coming from a wider area
Take some time to ponder it though. Lots of choices to work with
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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Don't Magnolias need acidic soil?
Extremes are the problem - very acidic is no use either. I probably should have clarified that previous post a bit more
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I have a number of magnolias one mature that was here when we moved in and three I’ve planted..all appear to be doing very well...I think they are lovely trees, look fantastic when in bloom
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
A (possibly obvious) point that I hadn’t really considered - will a multi-stem tree provide a much wider coverage compared to a single stem tree of the same variety? I think I’d expected a single stem tree to just branch out higher up but I guess it makes sense that the overall canopy width would be reduced too?
Most pictures of mature magnolias that provide the wide canopy that I’m looking for appear to be multi-stem.
Just check the variety before you decide. As I said, some will take alkaline soil and some won't. I think it's M. grandiflora which is fine in alkaline soil. If in doubt, you can get one of those testing kits.
M. stellata might be a good option if you don't want something so big, which would be better if you're pulling the tree forward. They flower in spring.
Grandiflora, gets quite large over time, although it has the advantage of being evergreen. There's a few named varieties too. They're later flowering - summer/autumn.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Dull when they aren't in flower, so they need other planting around them.
It wouldn't really be my choice either, especially in a smaller space, and not unless other plants would take over. Some bulbs and perennials, and clematis to grow through it, for example
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Thanks again for all the advice and pointers, I’ll try to remember to update this thread once I have something planted! 😊
Take some time to ponder it though. Lots of choices to work with
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...