Your clematis will have almost stopped growing and be settling in for winter now and losing its leaves if it's a Montana so dont do anything until after its flowered next year when you can cut it back as far as you need to and then start it train it horizontally
They don't just flower on new stems @cazsophieq2019 - they flower along all of them. Just train new growth as we said earlier on in the thread so that you get good coverage on the fence, and you'll have flowers on a larger area.
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I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I have a Montana wilsonii on a trellis in quite a small garden. It is smothered in small white flowers which come out later than other Montanas ... May June. It has been in situ for around 3/4 years and is very rampant and needs controlling. You will know if it is a wilsonii as when in flower it has the most powerful scent of vanilla. I put up with it's thugishness because it has so much to offer.
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I have a Montana wilsonii on a trellis in quite a small garden. It is smothered in small white flowers which come out later than other Montanas ... May June. It has been in situ for around 3/4 years and is very rampant and needs controlling. You will know if it is a wilsonii as when in flower it has the most powerful scent of vanilla. I put up with it's thugishness because it has so much to offer.
I would leave it, has others have said, until after flowering next year. I feel Montana require non pruning to give their full flowering potential but it has to be done at some point to curtail them somewhat.
Most of the montanas have a vanilla scent - not all are powerful though, and your conditions will also dictate how strong that is. Some have little to none The foliage is the thing which will determine if it's a montana. The new growth appears on all the little joints on the stems, which is why if it's pruned back hard, you lose flowers the following season. It flowers on old wood. The flowers are also quite distinctive on them all, and different from the large flowered types. Without a close up it's very difficult to determine what you have. The photos are from too far away. It could easily be a Group 2 clematis as you said it was flowering in May/June. The foliage is quite big from what I can see. They can be left, or trimmed back lightly, as they will often produce a later flush of flowers. That is also determined by location and climate. We get very few later flowers on them here, even on mature plants.
Which variety it is is another matter, and that's largely irrelevant when it comes to the care. Determining the type of clematis is more important
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Take a look online at Clematis montana 'grandifolia'. See if the flowers yours had match up. Try Taylor's Clematis to start with, but there are loads of sites which will show info.
They're still green here as it's been very mild for this area. A neighbour has one - I can see it from my front windows.
Just additionally - there seems to be a rose growing in that last pic. I don't know if the clematis stem is drooping down onto it, or if it's come from somewhere else/planted.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gosh you have great eyesight ..... :-) thanks for pointing that out.
Your're correct a wee bare root rose I planted last November (only cost £1 at a major discount store - thought I'd give it benefit of the doubt) was indeed caught up in the Clematis vine, have released it now, photo attached. Not sure if the rose's growth is good or poor for it's first year. But I'm thinking of transplanting it to a container to see how it goes.
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I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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Ah brilliant, looking forward to next year now to see what mine produces.
Good to know, thanks 🙂
The older you get, the more you realise that it is OK to live a life others don't understand.
The foliage is the thing which will determine if it's a montana. The new growth appears on all the little joints on the stems, which is why if it's pruned back hard, you lose flowers the following season. It flowers on old wood. The flowers are also quite distinctive on them all, and different from the large flowered types.
Without a close up it's very difficult to determine what you have. The photos are from too far away.
It could easily be a Group 2 clematis as you said it was flowering in May/June. The foliage is quite big from what I can see. They can be left, or trimmed back lightly, as they will often produce a later flush of flowers. That is also determined by location and climate. We get very few later flowers on them here, even on mature plants.
Which variety it is is another matter, and that's largely irrelevant when it comes to the care. Determining the type of clematis is more important
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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Here's a close up of the foliage - thanks again for your insight :-)
They're still green here as it's been very mild for this area. A neighbour has one - I can see it from my front windows.
Just additionally - there seems to be a rose growing in that last pic. I don't know if the clematis stem is drooping down onto it, or if it's come from somewhere else/planted.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gosh you have great eyesight ..... :-) thanks for pointing that out.
Your're correct a wee bare root rose I planted last November (only cost £1 at a major discount store - thought I'd give it benefit of the doubt) was indeed caught up in the Clematis vine, have released it now, photo attached. Not sure if the rose's growth is good or poor for it's first year. But I'm thinking of transplanting it to a container to see how it goes.