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Help needed pruning roses......

Mary370Mary370 Posts: 2,003
Hi, I've included 3 of my roses, can someone please show me where to cut, as this year I had lots of thin spindly canes.  They are all hybrid tea roses......... it's not as simple as I thought, just cutting back canes as I did last year.  Please help as I want strong, beautiful plants and lots of flowers next year.

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  • K67K67 Posts: 2,506
    edited October 2020
    Pruning is done next year. 
    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=176  
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    I think you did well. Thin canes can be a result of too much nitrogen or not enough of some other nutrients (I think calcium or magnesium) or simply up to the genetics of the plant.
    With hybrid teas, the thicker canes you get, fewer blooms (but bigger) you get. That's why hybrid teas are often pruned very low, to encourage new thick basal canes with huge exhibition-worthy blooms. Prune them higher and you get a higher number of thinner canes, more branching and more of smaller blooms.
    Not all HTs react well to this type of treatment but many do. If you prune too high or not at all, they often look imbalanced or too top-heavy. This is because they were bred for cutting, exhibitions and huge blooms on long stalks, with heavy pruning in mind. They weren't bred as garden plants.
    I actually like what you did there. They aren't too upright, look well-branched and should look good and give you many blooms (relatively). Most probably, you will get some new basal canes next year anyway, roses produce them when they are happy. If you don't like how they grow now, remove all weak/thin growth. You know best how your roses grow and how they react to different ways of pruning. There isn't one correct way for everyone and every rose, just use your intuition.
    You can prune very long canes now to reduce wind-rock (if needed) but leave the most of the pruning for February.

  • Mary370Mary370 Posts: 2,003
    @edhelka thanks for your input........I love the shape and form of hybrid tea flowers, but they are obviously not nearly as floriferous as shrub roses, as I've noticed on the fabulous rose thread.  I think it's time to invest in a some shrub roses........
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Could I jump in and ask why you shouldn't prune roses until the spring?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Mary370Mary370 Posts: 2,003
    I think it's a case of after being pruned they may start to grow and the new growth can be damaged by any frosts over the Winter......but I could be wrong lol
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Mary370 said:
    I think it's a case of after being pruned they may start to grow and the new growth can be damaged by any frosts over the Winter......but I could be wrong lol
    That’s what Percy Thrower used to say 👍 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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