Patience is an essential gardening virtue you need to cultivate! 8 mins is not long to wait before getting out of your pram.
You need something to guide them till they get the idea once they're in the branches.
Plant the rose at an angle and away from the trunk as this will provide too much competition for light, moisture and nutrients. Train the rose up a pole or maybe some rope to the lower branches of the tree. Keep it well fed and watered while it gets established. Once it's in the canopy it can make its own way by itself.
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You could try gently tying the long branches to the tree trunk using twine or Soft-tie stuff as far as you can reach. Thereafter it will climb mostly by itself using the thorns to anchor itself to the tree.
Most ramblers would probably be too vigorous for such a young tree and you would need to cut back a lot of the annual growth to stop it swamping the tree. Having said that you could go for one of small ramblers but the issue then would be that it wont give you the look you want once the tree has matured
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Maybe it was beginners' luck but I have successfully trained a "Lady of the Lake" D Austin against a cherry tree (established !). Good points: stems are flexible and easily coerced along the branches of the tree. I do prune the tree very hard though as I am not after the cherries, so when the rose is growing it gets full sun but when the rose is in full bloom (end May or June) the cherry has leaves to protect against strong sun (south west facing). Bad points: only one flush of flowers (ramblers tend to do this) and not very tidy but that I suppose is a personal choice. I wanted to upload a photo but it is coming out on its side. So I would do as people have suggested: first the tree then the rose
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You need something to guide them till they get the idea once they're in the branches.
Plant the rose at an angle and away from the trunk as this will provide too much competition for light, moisture and nutrients. Train the rose up a pole or maybe some rope to the lower branches of the tree. Keep it well fed and watered while it gets established. Once it's in the canopy it can make its own way by itself.
I've been gardening for about forty years, but never tried to grow a rose up a tree before - time to hope for the best.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
East facing, top of a hill clay-loam, cultivated for centuries (7 years by me). Birmingham
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