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Leggy bare stemmed climbing roses

The first rose is an Iceberg (2 years old). It’s very spindly. I was wondering what I could do to encourage it to be stronger and bushier.
The second rose is a yellow garden centre variety (4 years old). I’m unsure if it’s name but it smells heavenly. It’s gone very leggy suddenly. It grows profusely but these 8/9 foot vertical stems that only have leaves and flowers on the very tops. I’m wondering how I can encourage it to bush out more and get leaves lower down. What should I do with these crazy tall branches? I was wondering if I should pull them into a horizontal position and tie them in place? I tried this last year but more vertical tall stems grew from 


the horizontal stems with the same bare problem.




Hopefully I’ve attached photos.
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