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Plant suggestions please for woodland burial site in Surrey

Hello all. I wonder if you can help me.  Apologies for long post - My son died in January 2019 & loved his nature. A tree was planted for him and when the grave had settled down we scattered a few thousand woodland flower seeds and planted some bulbs. This was late spring last year. Nothing has come up at all. Whilst it will eventually be a woodland, the area where he is has little shade and obviously regular watering will be a problem. I had hoped for flowers for all seasons, self seeding where possible.  Any ideas?
Additionally, My Father sadly passed in March this year & due to Covid restrictions did not have a funeral (direct cremation - nobody present). We are finally arranging to get together in September for what would have been my son's birthday & would like to find a suitable plant in memory of my Father, that would cope with the conditions and be appropriate for the woodland that the area will become. 
I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions, thank you.

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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Have you asked the authorities about the bulbs and seeds, the idea of a woodland burial is that it’s left as if no one has been there. Just trees of the woodlands choice.
    they may have removed them.
    this is the general rule,
    ”quote”
    We reserve the right to remove any plants not listed in our information sheet as we must avoid hybridisation resulting from cross-pollination. This is important to protect wildflowers in our woodland burial ground and in surrounding land of adjacent landowners.  
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Condolences for your sad double loss.
    As Lyn says, I also understood that nothing is usually planted in natural burial sites, so don't know whether your particular site has a list of permitted plants? 
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • Hmmm, thank you for your replies. I initially thought that would have been the case, but there are many plots where planting has been done. I'll speak to the people to ascertain what, if anything, is permitted to be planted. If nothing else, I don't expect they would object to another tree. 
    Thank you again for your replies.
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    Autumn is the usual time for bulb planting, I'm not sure if they'd come up if planted in spring, but they might next year. Re the seeds, you will have to create some bare patches if you want them to germinate reliably. 
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • Check with the authority and think of something that is at its prime at the  time of your son's death or birthday. I planted some trees in memory of a friend who died in Feb. 
    Snake bark Acer [Not a native tree but there are some lovely native ones to choose from} Lonicera fragrantissima, Crabapple Sentinel, the birds do not take the fruit of this one but the native crabapple is lovely and a good supply of food for the birds or a beech tree for its autumn colouring.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited October 2023
    I am sorry for your loss. A natural burial site can be a lovely place to remember those who have passed. My own mum is in a site in Epping Forest. Each site will have it's own regulations and guidelines. Some don't permit personal planting and some do. Planting spring bulbs now can be a straight forward way to begin.  There are options to go for bulbs that more reliably come back year after year, and those that give glory for one season only (more or less).   Planting bulbs deeper generally means that they are less likely to be predated by mice, squirrels etc. Best wishes for your plans.
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    For a woodland burial site I think wild wood anemones would be lovely, and primroses. You can get anemone bulbs and primrose plugs from Naturescape wild flower farm.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • I'm truly sorry for your losses. Blue Hydrangea would be a great choice they are known for their stunning, large blooms and can be a beautiful addition to your memorial area.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I'm truly sorry for your losses. Blue Hydrangea would be a great choice they are known for their stunning, large blooms and can be a beautiful addition to your memorial area.
    Totally unsuitable for various reasons. 


    @cathy.john63156 - a difficult time for you. I'd agree with @Loxley - many bulbs will work well, and you could even try other perennials if there's enough moisture getting through the tree canopies.  Hardy geraniums are always a 'go to' plant for that kind of site, and many are fine in lots of shade. Epimediums would possibly work too. We have crocus and snowdrops at a grave, but it's open enough to allow plenty of moisture through.

    Not so easy if the site has lots of evergreens though, but it would also depend on how good the soil is, and whether it's moisture retentive enough.  Many ferns will be ok, but you'd possibly need to pick ones which are ok with drier soil conditions   :)

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DaveGreigDaveGreig Posts: 189
    If part of the purpose of the site is to enhance the ecology of the area then our native elder Sambucus nigra would be my choice for both a difficult growing situation, interest and a positive contribution to the eco-system. The flowers are both beautiful and reliable and the clusters of dark purple almost black berries feed a variety of creatures in the autumn. Ok it’s a large shrub rather than a tree, but it grows relatively quickly so will compete well with the plants around it and is as tough as old boots. I have one in my garden I planted 35 years ago and it’s one of my favourite native plants. The flowers seem to almost glow in the early summer twilight and they’ve always been a sign of better times ahead for me.

    Elders exist in that mid layer group along with hazels, hawthorns and birches where they grow, filling the space and supporting wildlife until the bigger trees come up, and they play a vital part in woodland ecology. 
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