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Sweet Peas not flowering Please help!

Hi there, I'd really appreciate some advice. I'm UK based and my sweet peas are not flowering yet - the buds go dry/die and the leaves at the bottom don't look healthy. They are either yellowy/a bit stripey (took most of those leaves off yesterday) and many have white marks on them. But the green foilage further up keeps growing and looks fairly healthy. I have never grown sweet peas before so am very much an amateur!

They are in 2 x 25 litre pots, I used John Innes no.2 soil (loam based with less than 50% peat). I used snail bait & a few weeks after planting them a weak solution of Tomorite on them. There are about 12 plants in each pot (probably too many I know) mostly in groups of 2 or 3 (one has 4 :# ). I've looked online but unsure if its the heat damaging them (they're in all day sun, though I have been shading them with the parasol recently with this intense heat), or if its from too much watering, not enough watering, root burn from too many plants, damage from the Tomorite, or the wrong type of soil! I water them every day at night which seems like enough but its hard to tell when they're in big pots. I'm very sad that they're not flowering! Can my sweet peas be saved?! Many thanks for any advice in advance! Megan

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    edited August 2020
    Hi @megan23 - did you grow them from seed or buy plants?

    A soil based medium won't have enough food in it, and it would have been better to have had some compost mixed through it, as it's a bit heavy as a growing  medium for small plants, and they may have struggled a bit early on. They do need plenty of water, but that type of medium will tend to hold on to it a bit too much, so again - young plants could have been a bit soggy, and may just have grown weakly.
    Don't water unless they actually need it, so if they're still damp in the top inch or so, just leave them.  :)
    You could move them into a bit of shade too, so that they aren't getting too much sun. Hours of really hot sun is hopeless for them, despite the usual info saying that they grow in full sun. 
    I use turf in the bottom of my pots, or some garden soil, and then compost with a little slow release food. A layer of manure instead, if available, at the bottom of the pot is also great.
    That does them until they start getting buds/flowers, and I then feed them every week or two with tomato food. That works well. 

    Should have added - the leaf damage isn't anything to worry  about - they do get damage from leaf miner, and the foliage gets tatty as they grow too. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited August 2020
    My sweet peas have stopped flowering ...  normally they would have gone on much much longer ........ they've been fed and watered adequately.  I think they just don't like the heat.  

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • megan23megan23 Posts: 10
    Fairygirl said:
    Hi @megan23 - did you grow them from seed or buy plants?

    A soil based medium won't have enough food in it, and it would have been better to have had some compost mixed through it, as it's a bit heavy as a growing  medium for small plants, and they may have struggled a bit early on. They do need plenty of water, but that type of medium will tend to hold on to it a bit too much, so again - young plants could have been a bit soggy, and may just have grown weakly.
    Don't water unless they actually need it, so if they're still damp in the top inch or so, just leave them.  :)
    You could move them into a bit of shade too, so that they aren't getting too much sun. Hours of really hot sun is hopeless for them, despite the usual info saying that they grow in full sun. 
    I use turf in the bottom of my pots, or some garden soil, and then compost with a little slow release food. A layer of manure instead, if available, at the bottom of the pot is also great.
    That does them until they start getting buds/flowers, and I then feed them every week or two with tomato food. That works well. 

    Should have added - the leaf damage isn't anything to worry  about - they do get damage from leaf miner, and the foliage gets tatty as they grow too. 
    Hi Fairygirl thanks for your reply :) I bought these as seedlings in early June and they did look very healthy when I bought them, and planted them in early July. I planted them in John Innes No.2 which is potting on compost (sterilised loam, peat and horticultural grit with added nutrients). Do you think this compost is good for sweet peas? Thanks for the tip on the watering, noted! I actually moved them into the shade last night as figured they can't be liking this heat! Good to know re the foilage.
  • megan23megan23 Posts: 10
    My sweet peas have stopped flowering ...  normally they would have gone on much much longer ........ they've been fed and watered adequately.  I think they just don't like the heat.  Thy
    Mine have not flowered at all yet  :#. I really hope I get some flowers! Yes it must be the heat affecting yours, its crazy the temperatures lately! I hope you get some flowers again.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Buying seedlings in early June means they were ones which should have been planted out or potted on sooner, and they were probably very leggy. They should be a good size and bushy at that point, ready to grow on and produce good buds and flowers in July. 
    The soil would probably have been ok if the seedlings were healthy. Good compost alone is fine to produce a decent crop, but a potting on compost isn't really hearty enough for something which is needing to grow and produce a lot of flowers, especially ones which weren't at their best. 
    These cream ones were sown in early April, and just kept ticking over until they were big enough to plant out later in May. Mine would normally be a bit slower than that, but we had a record breaking April, so they grew more quickly. This was taken last week

    Just keep them out of that severe sun for now, and take off those dried up buds. Just keep an eye on the watering too.
     Hopefully, you'll get some new ones. Wait until you get a few more fresh buds and then you can start giving them a little tomato food now and again to promote the flowers.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • megan23megan23 Posts: 10
    Yes I should have planted them earlier and they were quite leggy by then! The seedlings were healthy at the time. Ah I wondered if it was the wrong soil. Your sweet peas are beautiful! That is impressive. Thank you so much for your advice Fairygirl, noted and I shall be keeping a close eye on them 😊
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    I sowed a second lot in June, they have caught up with the spring sown ones, they are very greedy feeders sweet peas, they also hate hot and dry,looks as though you also have powdery mildew.Tomato food for pretty much everything here
  • megan23megan23 Posts: 10
    I sowed a second lot in June, they have caught up with the spring sown ones, they are very greedy feeders sweet peas, they also hate hot and dry,looks as though you also have powdery mildew.Tomato food for pretty much everything here
    Yes they seem to be suffering in the heat! Interesting that the ones sown in June flowered, amazing as I thought that would be too late. I was also thinking it could be mildew. So you suggest using tomato feed on all now?
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    There's no point in feeding them when they're struggling - very bad idea.
    Wait until you have some new growth and buds. 
    Too hot and too dry is what they hate, and that's why they have some mildew, although that's quite common anyway. 
    If plants were available in June in a commercial outlet - they would have been starving, not healthy.

    Just how much water do you give each pot when you water? They need at least a big canful for pots that size.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • ERICS MUMERICS MUM Posts: 627
    My late grandad used to grow beautiful old-fashioned sweet peas with a fabulous fragrance.  He told me they like to send down long roots and once the plants are growing well In summer warmth they need a lot of water.  He feed them occasionally with tomato food.
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