I remember this rose from my childhood. It was growing over a rustic arch and adjoining fence, but even to a child it looked more like the rose holding up the arch than the other way round! A very strong grower and notably thorny.
..sorry to disagree with general consensus... the rose does not need to be moved... the rootstock, which is the main part, is well capable of dealing with a rose like new dawn in that position... the roots will in time work their way outwards running through just below the surface, and away from the wall... only a problem for weak growing small roses, where the rootstock is not pushed for growth..
...I would be more concerned about only getting 1 bloom on your rose... New Dawn, these days, is no longer a rose I would recommend... over propagation during the last 90 years seems to have caused, what some of us who've been growing this rose have noted, that it has reverted to its parent, a rose called 'Dr. Van Fleet'.. this is once blooming climber/rambler of vigorous growth.. I have grown 'New Dawn' no less than 3 times in the past 20 years, and each time the rose grew to 20 feet and never once produced a bloom after July... I am not the only one to notice this.. it's possible the budwood for propagation is being taken from canes that have reverted to the parent plant.. and that's not only in this country but noted elsewhere too.. ...so something to keep an eye on, I hope it reblooms for you and you have the genuine article.. only time will tell on that..
...if you cannot supply a support for it, the rose will grow as a large arching, mounding shrub, quite unruly and as buttercupdays has noted, very thorny too... but it can be left to its own devices if necessary.. it won't look as attractive, but some roses are best left alone..
Don't worry about the single rose this year. My New Dawn didn't look as though it would survive its first year , did better in its second and this year has been lovely. A previous specimen grown from a cutting poked out of the top of a 30 foot high tree and provided a wonderful display for my neighbours, viewed from their upstairs windows!
..yes but one pays for a repeat flowering rose, it should repeat in its first year from a young plant that you would see in a garden centre in a pot, even if only a bloom or small cluster in September and nothing else... if it manages to do that, all well and good, but if it doesn't then it may not be New Dawn, but its parent..
Hmmm.....After reading those descriptions I don't think I've got 'New Dawn' at all. Mine is about 10 years old, ramrod straight, thick unbendable canes, repeat flowers very well, pale pink blooms of an HT shape. I do keep it pruned to about 6' in front of the shed, so have no idea what height it might attain. Whatever, it's growing in a difficult spot which is a bonus and I like it!
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...I would be more concerned about only getting 1 bloom on your rose... New Dawn, these days, is no longer a rose I would recommend... over propagation during the last 90 years seems to have caused, what some of us who've been growing this rose have noted, that it has reverted to its parent, a rose called 'Dr. Van Fleet'.. this is once blooming climber/rambler of vigorous growth.. I have grown 'New Dawn' no less than 3 times in the past 20 years, and each time the rose grew to 20 feet and never once produced a bloom after July... I am not the only one to notice this.. it's possible the budwood for propagation is being taken from canes that have reverted to the parent plant.. and that's not only in this country but noted elsewhere too..
...so something to keep an eye on, I hope it reblooms for you and you have the genuine article.. only time will tell on that..
...if you cannot supply a support for it, the rose will grow as a large arching, mounding shrub, quite unruly and as buttercupdays has noted, very thorny too... but it can be left to its own devices if necessary.. it won't look as attractive, but some roses are best left alone..
Got it! Makes sense! :-)
That's a great idea! That way I am not touching the landlord's wall....
Just getting started with this bed, hubby yet to put rope on.😁
thank you! Makes sense
Mine is about 10 years old, ramrod straight, thick unbendable canes, repeat flowers very well, pale pink blooms of an HT shape. I do keep it pruned to about 6' in front of the shed, so have no idea what height it might attain. Whatever, it's growing in a difficult spot which is a bonus and I like it!
Great suggestion, I just hope it blooms again. And not just ONE bloom...