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Sneaky weeds? Plant ID request.

justandnobodyelsejustandnobodyelse Posts: 128
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My neighbours have very kindly donated me some more plants. In amongst a few clumps of marguerite daisies were these two unknown plants pictured. They were obviously a different plant but quite easily teased out of the clumps, they have a very fine, and Relatively short root system. They do look as if they have a creeping habit as roots are appearing from the outer stems as visible on the last picture.

they currently sit in a couple of pots, quarantined in my greenhouse until I can find out what they are!

can anyone help to identify please?


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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Pilosella  aurantiaca aka fox and cubs. Pretty orange flowers but can become an invasive pest under the right (wrong😉) conditions especially if it gets into your lawn
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited June 2020
    Maybe Pilosella aurantica...common name Orange hawk weed.
    A wild flower but often grown in gardens as it is so pretty.
    When the flowers open it will be easier to say for sure what it is.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pilosella+aurantiaca++leaves&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqi7upg5XqAhXHQkEAHU1WCV8Q_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1920&bih=938
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    So, I am completely rubbish at flowers justandnobodyelse but they look a bit like primula to me.  I'm usually wrong so I would wait for someone who knows flowers to help  :)

    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • justandnobodyelsejustandnobodyelse Posts: 128
    Thank you all  @B3 @Silver surfer @herbaceous for your IDs. Unfortunately i think the compost bin is more likely to receive these two specimens than the garden. I don't fancy it creeping through the lawn. I might just check with my neighbour though, to see how invasive it is with our local conditions here. The flower is very pretty.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    herbaceous said:
    So, I am completely rubbish at flowers justandnobodyelse but they look a bit like primula to me.  I'm usually wrong so I would wait for someone who knows flowers to help  :)

    😀😀😀😀I’d agree with you there, you’re rubbish at ID. 😀😀😀😀
    (No offence meant) 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited June 2020
    herbaceous said:
    So, I am completely rubbish at flowers justandnobodyelse but they look a bit like primula to me.  I'm usually wrong so I would wait for someone who knows flowers to help  :)

    Many times plants can be hard to id.
    I often try to take my time and double check my facts.
    The internet is amazing for this

    The secret is to look ...really look...then look again.
    There are no prizes for being the first one to answer.

    Always look for the clues.....

    The mystery plant has hairy leaves......see my pics 5 - 10 below.
    The flowers are not yet open.
    The flowering stalk is tall 
    There are many buds on the top of a hairy stem.

    Primroses finished flowering ages ago...see  my pics 1 -4 below
    The leaves are not hairy.
    The leaves are very wrinkled.
    There is only one flower per stem.
    The buds are not hairy.
    ie Primula vulgaris...common name Primula...can be ruled out/eliminated.
    Nothing fits with the mystery plant.

    Just slow down and check before rushing in to answer.
    Hope this helps.










    Below Orange hawk weed.

    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    Thank you @Silver surfer all good advice and I really do try but if there is a special kind of dyslexia for non-edible plants then I seem to have it.  Won't stop me guessing though as every time I am corrected I have learned something  :)
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited June 2020
    herbaceous said:
    Thank you @Silver surfer all good advice and I really do try but if there is a special kind of dyslexia for non-edible plants then I seem to have it.  Won't stop me guessing though as every time I am corrected I have learned something  :)
    Every day I learn.

    I think you will learn more from getting it wrong..IF..
    you stop to find out why you got it wrong...and learn what details to look for.

    May be try guessing and waiting to see it you were right.
    I used to do that.
    i watched and waited for months until I felt confident to ad my 2p's worth.and posted for the first time.

    I often stay silent ..cos I do not know.
    No shame in that.
    No one can know everything.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Shame the hawkweed is invasive here. Its a beautiful flower
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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