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Normal failure rate for planting seeds?

This year we've done a lot more planting from seeds, mostly veg but some flowers as well. We've attended to our seeds carefully and researched the right conditions for each but seen a lot of variation in success.

Some packs every single seed grow, in others we've had literally one or two plants out of an entire pack sprout. Paying for a pack of seeds for one bean plant doesn't seem very good value.

The ones which seem to have done poorly include broad beans and french beans, celeriac, and lavender. Our pack of 200 spring onions hasn't had a single sprout!
On the other hand, peas, sprouts, carrots, parsnips, tomatoes and even melons and swetcorn have had abour 100% success and we are throwing them away there are so many.

I always through seeds were seeds, is it possible we got duff batches or should pick another supplier? What would you normally expect in terms of failure ratio when planting seeds?
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  • I do think it varies depending on the type of seed. I'm surprised you had problems with french beans unless it was old seed? I started off using old seed this year and got very poor germination so bought some new and every one has germinated. Spring onion can take a time to germinate and I think it needs to be kept moist. I've struggled to get it to germinate in open ground so now plant it in modules to start with and keep them on damp capillary matting to ensure they're always moist.

    Tomatoes and melons I find reliable but I've had lots of trouble with carrots and parsnips so you're obviously doing better then me there!
  • GemmaJFGemmaJF Posts: 2,286
    Are you planting direct or in a propagator?

    I often get 'mixed' results with direct sowing.

    Planting in a heated propagator failures are generally rare.

    Just one pack of Webb's Wonderful lettuce this year that was 'duff' firstly direct sown and it was more like Webb's Woeful, with other varieties sown at same time thriving, then to test I tried in the propagator with same result. It's a variety I usually get great results with.
  • MisterBoyMisterBoy Posts: 52
    edited June 2020
    Everything was planted as per instructions, nearly everything into trays/propogators in the greenhouse or on a windowsill for a few things that need extra warmth (tomatoes and sweetcorn for instance) 

    Does it make a difference where you buy seeds or is just a case of find a good price? 
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    I had problems with French bean Cobra, after sowing two trays have ended up with just 2 beans. :(
    The yellow Sonesta was brilliant though, got loads of them, as well as always reliable Purple Teepee, that one was last year's seed. The purple flowered broad bean also struggled, but that was mostly because of the heat and the fact I couldn't water it enough. It is trying hard now it is planted out, but the poor things will never catch up, even though they're getting plenty of rain!
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    My Dwarf French beans were slow to get started this year but are now totally making up for it.  Other than that the veg has been great - the flowers on the other hand  :(
    and they were all fresh seed.  I think we have had a strange weather start this year and stuff is all over the place.
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • GemmaJFGemmaJF Posts: 2,286
    MisterBoy said:
    Everything was planted as per instructions, nearly everything into trays/propogators in the greenhouse or on a windowsill for a few things that need extra warmth (tomatoes and sweetcorn for instance) 

    Does it make a difference where you buy seeds or is just a case of find a good price? 
    I think we all find suppliers we prefer and find more reliable over time. I do my bulk order of veg seeds early each year, usually from Suttons, along with garlic bulbs and onion sets, tatties etc. Though I'm not adverse to picking up a pack of seeds in the Supermarket. This year with all the disruption I picked up seeds where I could, Lidle beans peas and radish have been great!

    As has been said though, it was a strange year, I was really having to think about sowing times and planting out to fit around the unusual weather, where it could be boiling hot in the day and still frosts at night. I think having a heated propagator with artificial light in my garage (I don't have a green house) where temperature was stable made a huge difference this year. It's a method I'm going to stick with I think.
  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    Last year I had one pack of french beans where not a single one germinated, but a different pack sown the same day in the same conditions had 100% I complained and got a new pack (of a different variety) this year I have had horrible trouble with some pea seeds, I got Alderman peas from two different suppliers, one germinated fine and the other was terrible, I direct sowed them so I thought something maybe had eaten them and started a load inside to fill in the gaps. under lights in the house I got less than 30% germination so I feel that is the seeds not any pest outside.
    Seed packets say the minimum germination% expected under ideal conditions, if you have two things you have put side by side and one is good and the other not I would complain to the supplier. But if you are constantly having issues with a wide range of seeds I would look first at what you are doing, and then at how you are storing the seeds, if they are straight from the shop I would consider swapping shops they may have been badly stored there.
  • PlashingPlashing Posts: 328
    I got some of my seeds from the R.H.S shop this year the sugar snap peas I sowed in root trainers with 100% take and are cropping very well,the other seeds I bought from them have the same results am very happy.I have sown two batches of dwarf beans in root trainers (last years seed) with 90% take.
  • MisterBoyMisterBoy Posts: 52
    Plashing said:
    I got some of my seeds from the R.H.S shop this year the sugar snap peas I sowed in root trainers with 100% take and are cropping very well,the other seeds I bought from them have the same results am very happy.I have sown two batches of dwarf beans in root trainers (last years seed) with 90% take.
    Wow you are harvesting already? Our peas are only a foot tall! We are quite far north though, we generally pushed everything up to a month later on advice from experienced people locally. Even then they only just missed frost and hail in April!
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