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Clematis wilt?

ni.dafishni.dafish Posts: 7
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Hi all!

I just planted my apple blossom clematis in a 5g pot, and set it up with a trellis I made.  It has always had some damage on older leaves (bugs taking lunch of them perhaps) and was growing happy and healthy with new growth!   then a couple of days ago i noticed its new growth was very very droopy.  I also noticed some discoloration starting in previously green leaves.  New growth is still trying to sprout out of the stems that look green and healthy where the leaves are drooping.  It is hard for me to tell if they are turning brown though, as the apple blossom's new leaves come in redish color!
This wall gets indirect bright reflected light all day, but hardly any direct light. 

please help!  I don't want my beautiful plant to die of wilt, and would rather not cut it all back :(

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  • K67K67 Posts: 2,506
    edited June 2020
    Not sure if this variety is suitable for a pot but if it is a clematis needs a minimum size 45cm cube you cannot expect it to thrive in such a small pot.
    Check Taylors and Thorncroft websites for information on this variety and how to plant or pot grow
    Preferably get in planted in the ground but not too close to a fence or wall.
    Edit.
    Just checked this variety grows to 5m so not suitable for a pot and your border in your photo is way too narrow to plant it there.
  • ni.dafishni.dafish Posts: 7
    I know the current pot is to small for a dull size apple blossom clematis. I do plan on transplanting to larger pots as it grows. It wont be permanently in the 5 gallon pot, which it has only been in for a couple of months.
  • K67K67 Posts: 2,506
    Good but this variety will not thrive in  any pot whatever it's size, they also prefer a sunny aspect so your plant is always likely to have health problems.
    You do need to cut it back to help it though
  • ni.dafishni.dafish Posts: 7
    Dang.  Do you think I would I just need to trim the poor thing at the base of the limp leaves (so new growth areas)? Or do I need to cut it back to the leaves showing discoloration as well? 
  • K67K67 Posts: 2,506
    If it was mine I would cut it right back to around 50cm, get it out if the pot into a properly prepared suutable spot, water often and feed, clematis grow fast if happy.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    K67 said:
    If it was mine I would cut it right back to around 50cm, get it out if the pot into a properly prepared suutable spot, water often and feed, clematis grow fast if happy.

    I couldn’t say it better myself. That’s exactly what I would do. That clematis is wasted there ☹️ 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • ni.dafishni.dafish Posts: 7
    Yep that is what I will do then! I appreciate your advice. Poor thing was growing super fast and well then it just went poof. My yard doesnt get a lot of direct sun, I hope I can find a good place for it.  :#
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    edited June 2020
    Though I do not think it is advisable, this site suggests it can be grown in a pot.

    https://www.nature-and-garden.com/gardening/clematis-armandii.html

    Note that it says in its first year it should be in a 30 litre minimum pot (yours is 15litres) and it needs repotting every two or three years. I think you’re making a rod for your own back.

    Is there more trellis than is visible in the photo? It does not seem adequate for a plant of this vigour.
    Rutland, England
  • ni.dafishni.dafish Posts: 7
    I had done a lot of research on the plant actually.  That site along with a couple others had said it was possible. My intent was to repot it into a rather huge pot next year when i could afford one.  The whole trellis is mobile so I could place in a different spot if needed as well if lighting wasnt bright enough. The lighting in my yard is really tricky, and has lots of indirect, reflected and dappled light. I dont mind repotting a few times, and had intended on planting in the ground when I found a good place it liked.  
  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 1,017
    Could it possibly go into the ground, in that narrow bed behind the pot it’s in? Or is that too shallow in there? Clems love depth and cool roots.
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