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Few Questions about roses

bradleywood32bradleywood32 Posts: 59
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I just have a couple of questions (done a quick search but couldn't find answers). 
I've got 3 bare rooted Rose's coming from bakker, (ordered  before I joined and saw all the bad reviews). Alot of people and internet say soak them no longer then 12 hours, however their planting guide says 24 hours, would you recommend the 12 or thr 24 hour soak.

Also I currently have a Apollo climbing rose which is well established in a clay heavy soil. Alot recommend loam soil. I've ordered chicken pellets, also I already have john inns no 3 and MPC, would it be better if I dug deeper/wider put the chicken pellets at the bottom then mixed the no3 with the MPC and then fill with that. I have sand in the shed somewhere if that helps

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  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Roses love clay, unless we cant plant them quickly, we only soak, them a couple of hours, You dont need sand for roses, some compostround the plant, home made if possible, and now I warn you spelling might not be correct, the mircrorhizol stuff on the roots.Autumn they get manure.mulch
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited May 2020
    David Austin recommends one hour to soak bare root roses. If not using after they arrive, plant them in temporary compost. Roses love clay. And manure.
  • bradleywood32bradleywood32 Posts: 59
    So would you recommend just adding the manure pellets into the bottom of the hole?
  • mooota1514mooota1514 Posts: 74
    bradleywood32 said:
    So would you recommend just adding the manure pellets into the bottom of the hole?



    Hi I grew roses for the first time last year in large pots and they done fantastically well and the advice I got on this website was second to none.

    Here is my thread on roses from last year hope it helps you

    https://forum.gardenersworld.com/discussion/1025468/rosa-pompon-de-bourgogne/p1
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    I usually soak for an hour or two. Overnight is also fine if you want to plant in the morning.
    Mix some compost with your clay soil. Organic matter is good for soil health and worm activity. If you want to add chicken manure pellets, also mix them in but don't overdo it, they could be too strong for a young rose.
  • bradleywood32bradleywood32 Posts: 59
    Thanks mooota.ill have a read of that thread once I can get my phone of my LO for longer then 5 minutes 
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    I wouldnt bother with chicken pelletts as well, I do heel in any shrubs that come over winter, but you shouldnt need to do that now.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I don’t think it matters too much how long you soak them, a couple of hours or overnight, just keep the roots moist and don’t let them dry out until you are ready to fully dunk them in a bucket of water for however long then plant out.

    I have very heavy clay, I dig a wide, deep hole, putting all the excavated soil, minus stones, into a wheelbarrow then mix in three or four spades of bagged horse manure and the same of compost. Then, I put some of this mix back into the bottom of the hole, mounding it up a bit, spread out the roots out then backfill, making sure there are no air gaps under the roots. Firm in gently on top with my foot and water deeply, at least one large watering can (10-12L). You can add a small handful of chicken manure in the bottom of the hole, or a pelleted rose feed, mixing it in before you position the rose. Its a good idea to plant the graft - the knobbly bit between the roots and the rose canes - a couple of inches below the soil level. This helps to stabilise the plant and encourages it to send up new canes from the base, for a bushier plant.

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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