Hello Sandra. Your top shrub looks very like Osmanthus fortunei but I am not sure about the bottom one. It might be a flowering currant but I wouldn't like to bet my life on it. Is it definitely a shrub?
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I’m useless at ID but I’m wondering, as you said they are trees that the top one could be a type of holly and the 2nd one Viburnum Opulus. Probably wrong😀
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
Well done to those who said it was an Olearia! It is, yes, thank you, and it must have been there for quite some time, it was bended, twisted, and in bad shape, so I have cut several branches and it has now new growth. The second one fooled me because it is wrapped in a trunk of a tree. Here is a better pic
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Again, thank you
Looks like Olearia macrodonta...which has alternate leaves /leaves silver on the back.
https://www.google.com/search?q=olearia+macrodonta+leaf&client=firefox-b-d&hl=en-US&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-_7-SnI3pAhWVtHEKHeuRCE4Q_AUoAXoECA8QAw&biw=1920&bih=944
Might the second one by Japanese anemone?
The second one fooled me because it is wrapped in a trunk of a tree.
Here is a better pic