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punkdoc · April 2020

Why did my NDN make six trips out and back yesterday?
How many were essential?
Why is finding GC's that deliver essential?
Why are people finding elaborate ways to go and buy compost?

If I get the virus, I have a high chance of popping my clogs.
My MIL is in hospital with the disease, I am not allowed to visit my mother in her home.
Health service workers are already dying.
Nearly 600 people died in the UK, yesterday.

Which bit of isolation and non essential trips, do people not get.

RANT OVER, MAYBE.

Fairygirl · April 2020

@punkdoc- I'm trying to bite my tongue on that alternative compost thread for the same reason. One poster is making it personal.
I officially give up with these people.
Perhaps you could take a look and see what you think on it?

The man who crashed into the nurse while going out 'with the virus' is yet another example. He's not only probably given it to her, but she's now at home instead of treating people, so even more folk are at risk because of his actions.

If I can get compost at a supermarket in the future, when going for food, that's fine. My other local GC is delivering and that would be a very last choice for me, much further down the line, and only if I was absolutely stuck, but going out just for compost is not a necessary journey.

punkdoc · April 2020

I have seen that thread @Fairygirl, made me want to become physically violent, so thought it best not to say anything.

Fairygirl · April 2020

They're clearly having a go @punkdoc , and I'm finding it very difficult to hold back.
None so blind eh?
How is your MIL and your mum?

punkdoc · April 2020

Mum is starting to get very confused, doesn't understand why sisters' are not visiting and can't grasp the seriousness of the virus.
MIL is still on oxygen, but showing some signs of improvement.
Thank you for asking.
Are the fairylets ok now/

Fairygirl · April 2020

It's horrible for you all @punkdoc
Glad MIL is looking a bit better, but it's a small crumb to hang onto. The item on the news a few days ago from a care home in Renfrewshire showed one of the staff explaining to a resident with dementia about the virus. They have to do it every day because of it. The care they were getting from the staff was superb. Their patience seems endless. I hope your mum is getting the same kindness. It was very moving.

Girls are fine thanks - older one should be back at work on Tuesday, and the other one isn't due back till a bit later anyway. Their Dad got us some supplies to keep us going

@pansyface - I can tell what you're thinking about 'that' woman. You could almost excuse the youngsters [we're invincible] but her? Hmmm. Glad you managed. There was an item on the news concerning people with blindness and/or sight difficulties and them 'falling through the cracks' as it were.

Singing Gardener · April 2020

Fairygirl said:

The man who crashed into the nurse while going out 'with the virus' is yet another example. He's not only probably given it to her, but she's now at home instead of treating people, so even more folk are at risk because of his actions.

In the article I read it said that he'd been self-isolating because he was ill and when he got really bad decided to drive himself to hospital. Obviously he should have called an ambulance instead but he wasn't just going out for the sake of it. He later died in hospital.

Fairygirl · April 2020

I believe so @Singing Gardener, but there are organisations for helping those in his position. I understand his actions, but this is why people have to think very carefully before they do something. It has consequences.
Another poster here said that the other day neighbours across from her had a barbecue with other folk arriving in cars.
Crass stupidity and selfishness.

Obelixx · April 2020

If he didn't know about those organisations or was too ill to think straight his actions are understandable. Not all elderly folk have internet access or necessarily understand about the help available if they call the right numbers.

As for people having BBQs and other gatherings - beyond understanding. In other times I'd probably say "A pox on them!". Trouble is they'll get it, badly or not, and pass it on to others who will really suffer.

Fairygirl · April 2020

I do understand that @Obelixx, but he was coherent enough to tell the nurse he had the virus, or thought he did.
If nothing else, it highlights the knock on effect of these actions.

There was another shower having a 'lock in' at a pub. They've been done - rightly so. The owner knew nothing, it was apparently the manager or licensee - I assume one and the same person. I hope all the people who indulged are proud of themselves.
More selfish arrogance.

Topbird · April 2020

Your experience makes me so angry Pansy - as does the behaviour of your a$se of a neighbour Pdoc.

Hubby and I are both well and we're behaving ourselves. Went out to a local farm shop on Monday which was much much quieter at that time than any supermarket (probably won't be this weekend!). Got all the fresh veg, meat and dairy I needed. The fact that they had bags of compost available was a Brucie bonus. Won't be going shopping again until early next week.

Father-in-law is dying in a hospice in York. Nobody was allowed to visit until yesterday when the family got 'The Call'. He's still with us but not for much longer. Mother in law (age 85) has been stuck at home on her own unable to visit anybody or to receive visitors at this time of great distress. Thank God for Facetime. Hubby is at home with me feeling useless 200 miles away from his parents.

We can't do anything for his dad. His brother is up there and will take MIL to see FIL in his last days. Hubby will go up and stay with his mum after his dad dies so he can help her with arrangements and paperwork. After the funeral we hope she will come and stay with us for a few weeks.

We know that mixing households like that goes against the spirit of the guidance and regulations and nobody should be visiting MIL (which is why we've stayed away) at this time - but she'll probably die of a broken heart if she doesn't have emotional and physical support while and immediately after her husband of 65 years passes away. We've tried especially hard to keep ourselves virus free because we knew we had this situation in the offing. Apart from 1 supermarket, 1 pharmacy and 1 farm shop visit - we haven't been in physical contact with anybody else for over 2 weeks.

Such very difficult decisions to make and all very sad - but we've tried to do our best for our family and also for the wider community. I'm cross because we're putting ourselves through huge emotional turmoil when other people don't seem to give a toss.

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