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Apple and tomato tree. Where to buy?

Hi

i want to add to my garden an apple tree and a tomato tree.

i prefer to buy the plan itself rather than seeds, but I am open to listen for advise on this.

my question is... where do you recommend to buy those trees? A friend of me bought those in amazon but this is a bit weird, isn’t it? I was more about to buy it in a nursery.

i live in Milton Keynes area.

thanks
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  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    I don't know which fruit tree nurseries are close to Milton Keynes, but you can get a wide choice of apple trees on line, from various specialist suppliers - I've used Orange Pippin Trees, who specialise in apples.  They are very reliable and you can choose the variety you like, on a rootstock suitable for your garden.  (Different rootstocks produce different size trees - if you look on Orange Pippin's website it explains this.)  There are other good suppliers so I expect you'll get other recommendations too.

    By tomato tree, do you mean the South African Tamarillo tree?  Or the common tomato, grown in gardens and greenhouses in Britain?  If it's the sort of tomato you put in a salad, you can buy young plants from a local garden centre, appropriate for wherever you're going to grow them - for greenhouses, the garden, or hanging baskets, for instance.  But a Tamarillo needs a warm climate, so if that's what you have in mind, I think you'll need to grow it in a pot and bring it indoors in the winter.  Plants are available on line, if you type in "tamarillo plant uk".
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • Thanks for the answer. I will check orange pippin site.

    regsrding tomatoes, yes, I mean red tomatoes, for salad or just ornamental. I will check this in frosts then.

    thanks!
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    You won't have any trouble buying tomato plants from a garden centre.  They don't like the cold so you need to wait a few weeks!  But the apple tree can be bought and planted now.   :)
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • I have seen this — https://www.yougarden.com/item-p-300004/mini-orchard-fruit-tree-collection

    although initially I wanted just apples, I’m happy to mix apple with pears (sorry about the poor joke) and even plums.

    the other interesting product they have is this one https://www.yougarden.com/item-p-300063/duo-fruit-tree--apple-bramley-and-braeburn

    have you heard about them? Are prices good?

    thankd
  • josusa47josusa47 Posts: 3,530
    Tomatoes don't grow on trees, they are half-hardy annual plants.  This means they need some protection when they are young, and can't be planted outdoors until all risk of frost is past.  After you've gathered the fruit, the plant will die in the colder weather, and you'll need new ones every year.

    An apple tree won't start to bear fruit until it's four or five years old at least.  Some varieties mature faster than others.  Not many varieties are self-fertile, so, unless a near neighbour has apple trees, you need to plant two or three apple trees to get a decent crop.
  • Understood. If I plant the tomatoes in a pot, I can keep it indoor in winter, isn’t it?

    regarding apples, that’s a good point. Do nurseries sell apple trees that are they old and are ready to produce fruits?
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    It really isn't worth keeping tomato plants indoors over winter ... they get aphids and white fly and are rarely happy ... much better to start of fresh every year with new plants.  

    A few ideas and helpful hints here ...

    https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/how-to-grow-tomatoes-outside/

    https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/caring-for-tomatoes/

    https://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/time-saving-tips-for-growing-tomatoes/

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited March 2020
    Regarding the apple trees ... even if you buy a bigger tree, it'll take a couple of years for it to settle and become mature enough to get more than one or two apples ... and for the tree's health it's really better not to let it produce fruit for the first few years anyway ... it needs to spend its energy developing a good root system first, in order to support what is going to be quite a big plant.  

    Lots of helpful information here https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/how-to-grow-apples/

    but it doesn't explain that you'll need to wait a few years before you can pick your apples.  

    You can get lots more advice and help from here   https://www.orangepippintrees.co.uk/apple-trees  .  I have no connection with the company, but they're highly reputable and a fantastic source of information and of good quality trees. 

    Hope that helps  :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • koyukanokoyukano Posts: 72
    I have seen this — https://www.yougarden.com/item-p-300004/mini-orchard-fruit-tree-collection

    although initially I wanted just apples, I’m happy to mix apple with pears (sorry about the poor joke) and even plums.

    the other interesting product they have is this one https://www.yougarden.com/item-p-300063/duo-fruit-tree--apple-bramley-and-braeburn

    have you heard about them? Are prices good?

    thankd
    I have seen this before, pretty sure it is the same as that advertised on amazon, I bought them myself, trees are okay but the rootstock for the apple is M27 (I don't like how they don't say the name of the rootstock instead saying it is 'similar' to M26). I paid same price on Amazon for these and for the money I would recommend. 

    I also have just moved house and purchased 3 trees (2 year olds on M26 rootstocks) from here https://www.dutchbulbs.co.uk/ and all the trees arrived quickly in good packaging and look good, they are also very cheap for 2 year old M26 rootstock trees. 
  • Thanks. Does it make sense to buy an already grown apple tree ready to produce fruit instead of a rootstock that will take longer to produce fruit?

    If so, do you know any online site that sells it?

    Thanks
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