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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Lovely photos everyone. @Victoria Sponge I was sorely tempted to order Ambassador Nogami instead of Golden Beauty, but went for the sensible, allegedly more heat tolerant option. I look forward to enjoying it vicariously through you 😊 

    @micearguers that’s a really good, dark red. Yes I do love reds, but I have tried three climbing reds and all turned horrid shades of pink here. The upright habit one was a shrub rose behaving like an HT, so just not what I expected...

    Does anyone know what is causing this new cane to collapse?  It’s like the inner cell walls have collapsed. It’s on the troublesome Chateau de Cheverny that arrived with Botrytis Blight. Is it BB striking again?


    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    It could well be @Nollie, although I've never seen a rose do that before.

    I'm lamenting this morning, My GJ had thrown out 3 very long canes recently, making it 6-7ft tall and out of my reach. They were really getting blown to pieces with the high winds yesterday so I cut two of them down in a hurry (the third cane had buds so I left it). I do so wish I hadn't done it!!!
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Nollie
    ...just to say that's stem fasciation... quite rare in roses, but one sees it occasionally... caused by a whole variety of possibilities, but nothing to concern yourself about, and you may not see it again, so just cut out the stem..  I've only seen it before on 2 roses I've had, it's where what is called the apical meristem has divided and is trying to make two stems out of one..
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Thanks for identifying that @Marlorena, shame, that was a promising flowering cane to begin with, but I’ve cut it down to the ground as advised. I’m sure it’s just coincidence and nothing to worry about as you say, but I still have a sneaking suspicion this rose is going to be tricky... 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • sarinkasarinka Posts: 270
    Quick question, hopefully on the right thread this time: Is there a repeat bloomer that's like Charles de Mills, as gorgeous and romantic and crimson as that?
  • sarinkasarinka Posts: 270
    Thank you! Perhaps getting both would be safest...
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @sarinka I think most gallicas don't really have any modern look-alikes. Even if one cares about blooms only and not the rest of the plant. What I really like about CdM is the mix of pink, purple and red hues, I don't remember seeing anything like that in any other (modern) rose.
    What I like about once bloomers (at least albas, gallicas and some damasks) is how they are "plant, enjoy in May/June, forget for the rest of the year" type of plants. Like other spring/early summer flowering shrubs. Glorious for 2-5 weeks and working well as foliage plants for the rest of the year without any care.
    And so many once bloomers don't have any good modern copycat. I wish there was a rose with alba-like foliage but repeating and smaller (but that would be extremely hard to create using traditional breeding methods) or even bluer r. glauca foliage (also hard to breed with and there really isn't demand for that). Or blooms like Madame Plantier or Madame Hardy (DA Fair Bianca isn't even close).
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