i can only go with my own experience with Clematis in my own garden. All are in groups 2 and 3. They have all been planted approximately 3” to 4” below ground level and I have never had any problems with wilt or lack of substantial growth. At last count, I have 12 clematis. They just need to be planted in good quality, free draining soil and fed regularly in spring and a good mulch to keep the roots in cool, moist soil. I also feed mine with tomato feed every 2 weeks until they flower
Group 2 and 3 clems can be planted deeper, which promoted new stems from below ground, and can therefore be a safeguard against [ the very rare] clematis wilt. Group 1 covers a wide variety of types, and as the grouping simply refers to the pruning regime, they can be quite different.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Group 2 and 3 clems can be planted deeper, which promoted new stems from below ground, and can therefore be a safeguard against [ the very rare] clematis wilt. Group 1 covers a wide variety of types, and as the grouping simply refers to the pruning regime, they can be quite different.
Apologies, Fairygirl I didn’t fully appreciate they were group 1 I just love Clematis 😀😀
No need to apologise I love them too. I'm enjoying having some of the slightly more unusual ones in this garden for early colour. Very different to the bigger, summer flowering types. I have a voucher to spend at Taylor's [Christmas present from my daughters] and I can't decide which ones. No change there!
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Just to muddy matters further, both the florida x integrifolia and the diversifolia ones I have are, as I now know, thanks to fairygirl and the BCS, not to be planted deep, being of the herbaceous type, but all three of those species are also classed as ‘Group 3: Prune Hard’ and the diversifolia was wrongly labelled as a viticella, when it most definitely isn’t. No wonder us clematis newbies get confused!
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Yes - my understanding is that the herbaceous ones are pruned hard, similar to many perennials. Doesn't help if they're wrongly labelled!
I've maybe given the impression that they were Group 1 for pruning, which wasn't my intention. I was referring to the difference between the 2s or 3s and the 1s, as the 1s cover many types. Just for more confusion, the 2s can also be treated as 3s....
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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At last count, I have 12 clematis. They just need to be planted in good quality, free draining soil and fed regularly in spring and a good mulch to keep the roots in cool, moist soil. I also feed mine with tomato feed every 2 weeks until they flower
Group 2 and 3 clems can be planted deeper, which promoted new stems from below ground, and can therefore be a safeguard against [ the very rare] clematis wilt.
Group 1 covers a wide variety of types, and as the grouping simply refers to the pruning regime, they can be quite different.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I didn’t fully appreciate they were group 1
I just love Clematis 😀😀
I love them too. I'm enjoying having some of the slightly more unusual ones in this garden for early colour. Very different to the bigger, summer flowering types.
I have a voucher to spend at Taylor's [Christmas present from my daughters] and I can't decide which ones. No change there!
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Doesn't help if they're wrongly labelled!
I've maybe given the impression that they were Group 1 for pruning, which wasn't my intention. I was referring to the difference between the 2s or 3s and the 1s, as the 1s cover many types.
Just for more confusion, the 2s can also be treated as 3s....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...