You can have my vaccine I will not be taking another one. I have had two plus the booster. I have had covid twice. I have had health issues from the vaccine and covid but the vaccine seems worse. After the last booster I went into afib and then ablation. Had a rash over much of my body from the vaccine.
I was so stupid to take that Biontech stuff as booster in October 2021. I knew it was wrong, and I shouldn't do it. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3 We detected a significantly higher IFNγ response to +1 frameshifted antigen in the BNT162b2 vaccine group, compared to ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (Fig. 2d). There was no association between T cell responses to +1 frameshifted antigen and age, sex or HLA subtype (Supplementary Table 1 and Extended Data Figs. 2 and 3). Both ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 and BNT162b2 vaccination produced ELISpot responses to in-frame SARS-CoV-2 spike, but responses to +1 frameshifted products were observed only in individuals vaccinated with BNT162b2
The same with these messengers or what it was in 2020. Told us it would dissolve after 3 months, and then it turned out they didn't dissolve neither after 3 months and were still there after 6 months.
Who do you categorise as not necessarily needing a vaccine @KT53?
That decision is down to those who know a lot more about the vaccine than I do. I am prepared to believe that they are best placed to make informed decisions.
Am with you Punkdoc, I expect the same as me, when I was nursing, hep ABC, and TB jabs were mandatory and annual blood tests to check levels. As you know I am fully vaxed,5, got COVID first time ever in September, late October, diagnosed with long Covid. At that point I couldn't even stand up and peel a carrot. I was very shocked at how badly I was affected. 40 plus years nursing, never caught the Christmas Vomitting Virus, not a cough or cold for over 20 years. Could be coincidence,will never know, I had stopped taking the high strength vit D,in the summer, couldn't do my normal excercise routine last year, because of intimate health problems (nothing that would impact severity of COVID) I have never slept much. My oldest Daughter,53, no underlying health issues, never had any respiratory issues,has had covid 5 times,18 months ago, she couldn't even climb the stairs to bed. Recently had a virus, very sob, she didn't have any COVID tests. At 50, she had both flu and one Covid Vax, said she wasn't going to have anymore. INSPITE, of one of her best friends husbands, being desperately ill since March 2020 Covid, organ failure, sepsis, cardiac arrests, stroke,non communication, and in a nursing home.
You can have my vaccine I will not be taking another one. I have had two plus the booster. I have had covid twice. I have had health issues from the vaccine and covid but the vaccine seems worse. After the last booster I went into afib and then ablation. Had a rash over much of my body from the vaccine.
I certainly understand the decisions made by people in your position @jamesholt. In your case there certainly seems to be a possible connection between the vaccine and your side effects. What I don't understand is the mentality of those who said they won't have any more boosters simply because they still caught Covid. Nobody has ever claimed that the vaccine will prevent people getting Covid, but that vaccination will reduce the effect in the majority of people.
I’ve had the jab and all boosters available and will continue to do so.
I’ve had no ill effects whatsoever and so far haven’t caught COVID either … with the exception of the horrid virus I had in December 2019 before anyone had heard of it, which doctors now think was probably COVID. I became ill after having coffee with someone very shortly after she returned from travelling in the Far East.
The day after we met she became very ill indeed and was hospitalized with ‘pneumonia’ … the previous day she’d been visiting two elderly friends in a care home in the North East … they and three other of the residents died unexpectedly within about ten days of her visit … ‘of sudden onset pneumonia’.
I gave the virus to my partner (I’ve never seen him look so ill) and my strapping great fit and healthy son who really thought he was dying … his GP was really alarmed by his very high temperature.
We were all initially pretty fit, and we all recovered, although being quit a bit older I was left with a poorly chest and a really bad cough which went on and on for over 6 months … I think I was lucky.
As I said, since then I’ve had the jab and all boosters available and will continue to do so … and am very thankful.
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I’ve just had COVID.....fully vaccinated......really quite ill......my already poor lung function has decreased by about 25%...... I have no doubt that if I was not fully vaccinated I would have been hospitalised and very possibly worse. Vaccination has saved millions of lives.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3
We detected a significantly higher IFNγ response to +1 frameshifted antigen in the BNT162b2 vaccine group, compared to ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (Fig. 2d). There was no association between T cell responses to +1 frameshifted antigen and age, sex or HLA subtype (Supplementary Table 1 and Extended Data Figs. 2 and 3). Both ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 and BNT162b2 vaccination produced ELISpot responses to in-frame SARS-CoV-2 spike, but responses to +1 frameshifted products were observed only in individuals vaccinated with BNT162b2
The same with these messengers or what it was in 2020. Told us it would dissolve after 3 months, and then it turned out they didn't dissolve neither after 3 months and were still there after 6 months.
I will never again take any of these vaccines.
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That decision is down to those who know a lot more about the vaccine than I do. I am prepared to believe that they are best placed to make informed decisions.
I certainly understand the decisions made by people in your position @jamesholt. In your case there certainly seems to be a possible connection between the vaccine and your side effects. What I don't understand is the mentality of those who said they won't have any more boosters simply because they still caught Covid. Nobody has ever claimed that the vaccine will prevent people getting Covid, but that vaccination will reduce the effect in the majority of people.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Vaccination has saved millions of lives.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border