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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    May be an easy answer, doesn't mean it isn't right.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I see what you mean Pansyface, but it’s not bad in this country,  is it 5% of the land built on?  look to the heavier populated countries,  China want World domination now so have lifted their one child rule.  India following close behind.  

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • KiliKili Posts: 1,104
    edited March 2020
    I think the problem will come if a number of folk who have pre-existing respiratory conditions, then  contract the virus and go on to develop pneumonia etc and are admitted to hospital. 


    Yes, Dove that's right.
    I'm not sure if most people are aware but there are two pneumonia vaccines available which are about 50-70% effective the last time  I read about them. I think they last a lifetime.
    I would advise anybody with respiratory or immune deficiency conditions to speak with their Doctor about having these as if you do contract this new virus (as with Flu) its not the virus that kills you but, the complications of pneumonia that does you in as I understand it.
    With the pneumonia vaccine you will I assume improve your chances of survival should you contract it.

    Speak with you Doctor as soon as folks.

    Stay well and safe everyone.
    Kili

    'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.

    George Bernard Shaw'

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited March 2020
    @Kili ...  I think I’m right in saying that the vaccines you’re talking about work against Viral pneumonia which comes from a specific virus ... not against the sort of pneumonia that develops as a result of respiratory congestion,  which is what Covid 19 might lead to. 

    @punkdoc ... have I got the right end of the stick? 

    Edited to say: Googling shows that it’s more complicated than that (of course) 
    https://www.healthline.com/health/bacterial-pneumonia#bacterial-vs-viral

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • KiliKili Posts: 1,104
    edited March 2020
    @Kili ...  I think I’m right in saying that the vaccines you’re talking about work against Viral pneumonia which comes from a specific virus ... not against the sort of pneumonia that develops as a result of respiratory congestion,  which is what Covid 19 might lead to. 

    @punkdoc ... have I got the right end of the stick? 
    Thanks for the update Dove, I'm sorry if I got this wrong , best intentions and all that .As I suggested anyone reading my post should see their Doctor as I'm not one and I hope I haven't mislead anyone , just trying to help. but having the  pneumonia vaccine under the guidance of your Doctor will certainly help for what I have now been advised could be only for Viral pneumonia.

    Kili

    'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.

    George Bernard Shaw'

  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    I think that old people or others at risk should get the pneumonia vaccine, but that is effective only against a bacterial type, not a viral cause such as the coronavirus.
    I think that anyone at risk should avoid crowded spaces, give anyone coughing and spluttering a wide berth, and keep on washing hands.
    When I was working as a Locum, I often got called in at short notice to cover someone gone home sick. I think the staff thought I had OCD, wiping everything down with dettol wipes that the sick person touched, and bleach down the loo,but it  seemed to keep me healthy. Self preservation, as I didn't get sick pay.  The first thing I do when I come in from shopping is to wash my hands. I also don't buy food on open displays that people tend to touch and then put down again. Fruit and veg that get peeled is different.
    Last September I went to Kew, and somehow picked up a bug that kept me in bed for three days, then shattered for two weeks.  I went through four boxes of tissues and loads of medication, but thankfully I had a well stocked medicine cupboard, and we ate out of the freezer for two weeks.   Be prepared, you may just get a normal cold, but if you have a basic  anti winter colds kit, it will stand you in good stead sooner or later.
  • KiliKili Posts: 1,104
    Just found this on the NHS website . Looks like your right Dove, well done for being on the ball and thanks for the correction.

    "Although the pneumococcal (pneumonia) vaccine is not effective against coronavirus, it is still recommended that you have it if offered to you because it can protect against other illnesses."

    Regards
    Kili

    'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.

    George Bernard Shaw'

  • JoeXJoeX Posts: 1,783
    Lyn said:
    I see what you mean Pansyface, but it’s not bad in this country,  is it 5% of the land built on?  look to the heavier populated countries,  China want World domination now so have lifted their one child rule.  India following close behind.  

    Hi Lyn, China have a depopulation problem to be concerned about now.  If their birth rate doesn’t rise, and it has continued to fall since they revoked the one child policy, they will have a big problem with too many old people and too few young.
  • KiliKili Posts: 1,104
    basic  anti winter colds kit
    Hi Fidgetbones, what would a "basic  anti winter colds kit" consist of please?
    Are we talking the usual paracetamol, throat pastilles etc..?
    It would be intresting to hear what a medical professional does
    :) 

    Kili

    'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.

    George Bernard Shaw'

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