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Please ID this rose: very mature, potentially from the 60s, not new varieties

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Yellow one looks like Arthur Bell
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...yes...'Iceberg'.... aptly named 'Tequila Sunrise' and probably 'Arthur Bell'... but too many yellows to be sure... 
    East Anglia, England
  • I agree Masquerade for the orangey one. Chinatown for the yellow? 
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I agree with Iceberg for the white one.
    Masquerade is a floribunda rose so the roses will appear in bunches of several flowers on one stem. Also they change colour with age, becoming more red, so you get some flowers more yellow than red and some more red than yellow all together at the same time. Tequila Sunrise is a hybrid tea so it is more likely to have one flower per stem. It has yellow flowers edged with red.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • Thank you very much everybody for all your responses, really appreciate your time and effort. 

    I have looked up all the suggested varieties and compared with the roses in my garden.

    @AnniD @Hostafan1 @Dovefromabove @Nollie @Marlorena
    The first one is definitely Iceberg - that one is my favourite, so I was really glad to have identified it. Looked it up on David Austin site - they have a climbing one and a floribunda one. This is definitely the climbing variety.

    @Busy-Lizzie @bullfinch
    The second one seems to be indeed Tequila Sunrise. It says its normal size is 2.5ft, but I still think it is the one, as it is ancient, so had all the time in the world to grow taller than normal (well, it was introduced in 1985, so it had probably 30-35 years). It is not very scented, so probably not Sheila's perfume 

    @B3 @tessagardenbarmy
    The yellow one is indeed the trickiest, but I do think that it is Arthur Bell (or at least it is very similar in the description, which is good enough for me). It doesn't have reddish petals, so probably not Chinatown.

    Now I just need to wait for roses to appear in the local garden centers - I have my shopping list ready :)
    Surrey
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