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Islamic gardens "Going back 3000 years" according to Monty

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    amancalledgeorge said:
    Slum said:
    I got the impression Monty was speaking about the origins of the gardens rather than the religion.
    Far too sensible...the original comment had a slight whiff of islamophobia reading between the lines. 
    Maybe I'm really thick, but I didn't detect the slightest hint of Islamophobia from ANY of the posts in this thread. Maybe it's just you?
    Devon.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Hostafan1 said:
    amancalledgeorge said:
    Slum said:
    I got the impression Monty was speaking about the origins of the gardens rather than the religion.
    Far too sensible...the original comment had a slight whiff of islamophobia reading between the lines. 
    Maybe I'm really thick, but I didn't detect the slightest hint of Islamophobia from ANY of the posts in this thread. Maybe it's just you?
    How is it anything-phobic to pick up on a major inaccuracy in a statement by a presenter?  Unless it's deemed to be Montyphobic to make any criticism. :D
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    OK, I may have over reacted to Papi Jo and the meaning of the term lost in translation.  Having a brother who had that term attached to him after receiving serious head injuries does make me sensitive to its use.  Using the term as I interpreted was not just branding an entire nation, but all those who went to school before the country adopted the metric system, as mentally deficient.  I suspect there are many people on here who automatically still convert metres to feet/yards, and centrigrade to fahrenheit.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I only used metric when surveying a garden, but I'm 6ft tall and weight myself in stones and pounds, but I never , ever use fahrenheit
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I was taught imperial. I measure fabric in either imperial or metric ... sometimes both ...I cook using either form of measurement ...  but do you think I can ask the butcher for metric amounts of meat? Can I heck-as-like 🙄 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I chop and change between the two systems all the time. For technical drawings and most other measurements and weights I use metric. I use centigrade but can convert to fahrenheit if I remember the formula. I’m happy to use feet and inches and if someone uses them I’ll use them back - that’s only polite! I am now converted to the use of kilometres, but still understand miles. But like @Hostafan1,my own height and weight is always imperial and I have no idea what they are in metric.

    And I didn’t detect any Islamophobia either KT3. I’m really sorry to hear about your brother, that must be tough.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • JoeXJoeX Posts: 1,783
    They tried to teach me Imperial when I was a kid, but I thought it was stupid and refused. I still do.
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    edited October 2019
     but do you think I can ask the butcher for metric amounts of meat? Can I heck-as-like 🙄 

    I think in metric, being that little bit short of my 27th birthday, apart from travel distances which come in miles and speeds, which are miles per hour, because that's what all the road signs use. 
    But at the butcher I use an entirely different set of measurements. I buy streaky bacon by the 'wodge' or if I need quite a lot, by the inch. Back bacon is a number of rashers. I buy diced or minced meat by the handful (having established sometime ago that our butcher's standard handful is about 250g). For a large quantity, I revert to kilos. Roasting joints come by the string, except very special occasion beef which comes by the rib. Oh and cheese is in fractions - as in "can I have half of that quarter of brie?".
    It seems to work.
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I really don't like Brie in any measure.

    I can switch between metric and imperial for measuring fabric, wood for raised beds, weights for baking - except when I'm using cups as measures.   Happily switch between miles and kms thi I've been driving in kms for decades now.

    Patchwork club all day today and I found myself spending the afternoon helping the lady with Alzheimer's cut her half square triangles in cms and the new lady who is a beginner needed a binding which I measured in inches cos that's what my longer cutting ruler is.

    I never use Fahrenheit.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Not all cups are equal. American cups are different.
    A mile off piste but vaguely connected with metric/imperial - sort of: deaf sign language. A prefect opportunity for seamless communication. Even English speaking countries have different languages😕
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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