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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Obelixx said:
    We plant things on here so I doubt anyone can help with plastic grass.  Maybe try a DIY forum?  or the manufacturer?
    Dont be so ******* superior.  There are many reasons for people using artificial grass, and use of it doesn't make people any less 'gardeners'.  There is one house near us where the borders are a riot of colour from flowers and shrubs, but they have replaced an old lawn, which never grew properly, with artificial turf and it looks ten times better than before.  I have no doubt the people living there thought long and hard before doing so, but it is their choice.
    Any form of hard landscaping be it gravel, decking, slabs or concrete path would seem to bar people from asking advice in your world.
  • Obelixx, what an unhelpful and snootish response!!! This is gardeners world. Who says gardeners only partake in living plants in their hobby? How many posts on a huge variety of subjects do you see here every day? 

    If you hate artificial grass and have no experience to offer, why not just keep quiet and move on? 

    OP, i would do a light compaction again. I assume the edges and framework are solid? 
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
     It brings with it the loss of habitats and additional flood risk.


    What additional flood risk.  The sub-base is permeable.
  • glasgowdanglasgowdan Posts: 632
    edited October 2019
    What has strictly got to do with plants @Obelixx ? We plant things on this site, not talk about low-class tv shows. Try a TV chat forum...

    https://forum.gardenersworld.com/discussion/1021179/strictly-2018#latest
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    KT53 said:
     It brings with it the loss of habitats and additional flood risk.


    What additional flood risk.  The sub-base is permeable.
    I'm sure that sounded great in the brochure but the reality often doesn't meet the expectation. Even a professionally laid permeable base only has around 80% of the drainage that soft landscaping allows and most aren't professionally laid. I work in the industry so I get both sides of the picture. There are proposals to bring in planning laws to prevent people ripping out all the soft landscaping in gardens because it's becoming so rife now.
    Look at how many posts we're already had where peoples' gardens are waterlogged because their neighbour has ripped their lawn up and now the water runs off to next door. Or where people have bought a house with plastic grass and now can't have plants because of the thick layers of compacted hardcore. You chuck down a fake lawn now and you're salting the ground of any future garden as well as adding to the acres of plastic grass that will be in landfill in a very short number of years.
    To my mind if gardeners don't take a stance on this then we're not doing our duty. Same with peat compost, pesticide sprays, toxic cleaning products etc etc. This sort of public gardening community is an ideal place to encourage people away from the status quo of the old, unsustainable ways of gardening. Perhaps this post wasn't the best place and wasn't dealt with in the most positive way but at least we're talking about it and people can start to make their own minds up.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    My suggestion to look at a DIY forum or contact the manufacturer for advice was intended to be helpful.   The OP did say Thank you.  Whether he or she had not thought of that themelves or was being facetious is anyone's guess.

    @madpenguin - 'course there's plenty of DIY in gardens but it's usually stuff to use as plant supports, raised beds, compost bins, seats, water features etc and there are plenty of folk on here who do that and can advise on how best to procedd or which tools and materials to use.

    As for the Strictly comment - we have a Potting Shed board for chat about other topics, just as you might chat with your neighbour over the garden fence.  Indeed, in a formar incaratio of these boards it was called OTGF.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • FoxiesFoxies Posts: 60
    edited October 2019
    See below (can't find how to cancel a post)
  • FoxiesFoxies Posts: 60
    K67 said:
    No @Foxies I mentioned this in a later post
    Ah - thank you K67 - I've found it now. Is the topping permanent or does it have to be renewed?
    This thread escalated rather quickly ... :/
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    KT53 said:
     It brings with it the loss of habitats and additional flood risk.


    What additional flood risk.  The sub-base is permeable.
    I'm sure that sounded great in the brochure but the reality often doesn't meet the expectation. Even a professionally laid permeable base only has around 80% of the drainage that soft landscaping allows and most aren't professionally laid. I work in the industry so I get both sides of the picture. There are proposals to bring in planning laws to prevent people ripping out all the soft landscaping in gardens because it's becoming so rife now.

    So there would be a ban on patios too?  Hardstandings of some sort for cars is a necessity in many areas, particularly new builds where the roads are too narrow for cars to be parked on them and some estates actually ban parking of cars anywhere other than on designated parking areas.  In a perfect world maybe everybody could have the perfect natural green lawn with picture perfect borders planted to give year round food for insects and birds, but we don't live in a perfect world.  At times we need to be pragmatic and accept that what works isn't always idea.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I believe there are new rules about paving front gardens.  They have to be porous to absorb water rather than have it all run off into drains.  The RHS has certainly been promoting it.  After all you just need a couple of solid tracks for the car wheels and the rest can be gravel and plants or even grass. 
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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