I think this is the problem when you grow from seed from a bought fruit. I read an article once about the dangers of growing potatoes from bought ones.
@Dovefromabove may remember?
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
I'm not sure what you are saying is a problem here. At a guess I think you are meaning that when trying to grow plums from a bought fruit the germination success rate is low. Is this what you are meaning by problem?
I don't perceive it as a problem. I see it as a greater challenge. The greater the challenge that I overcome equals a greater satisfaction, and a deeper appreciation.
Aphids are naturally more attracted to soft growth. Having them inside all that time means they're soft. If you put them outside, and just wash off aphids as they appear, they'll gradually adapt and recover. They will then go on being stronger. If you keep them inside, you'll have to accept you'll get onging problems associated with them being overly protected.
Your plants, your choice though.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Growing any fruit from seeds taken from bought fruit is going to be a long, slow business, certainly years and maybe decades before you see any fruit. You don't know what the parents were so have no idea of what characteristics the offspring will have, how big it will grow, how long before it produces any fruit nor whether that fruit will be comestible.
Named varieties that you find on sale in GCs and nurseries are grafted stems with a rootstock chosen to determine vigour and eventual size which can vary from being suitable for growing as a small cordon, an espalier, a small tree or a full sized tree.
Any soft new growth is attractive to aphids or other pests so the sooner you get the seedlings hardened off and toughened up the better. Meanwhile, squish aphids with your finger and wait for the ladybirds and lacewings and hoverflies to hoover up the rest.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
It’s a bit like reinventing the wheel ... some folk seem to find it rewarding ... I prefer to learn from the clever folk who went before me ... that’s how things improve ... but each to his own 😊
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
That sounds like loosing sight of the fact that messing with plants, germinating seeds, (elements or gardening/horticulture etc) is an interest to some people.
@young codger Plum trees are completely hardy so no need to worry too much about frost. Putting them by a house wall will give enough shelter and is what many folk do with hardy young plants of all types. If there is a heavy storm or several days of below zero temperatures forecast, you could move them to the shed for that period to prevent the small pots getting blown about, flooded or frozen solid. Do harden them off first though by putting them out during the day and bringing back in each night for a couple of weeks.
As Fairygirl said, they are more likely to suffer from various issues if kept indoors where they'll be too warm and likely never get enough light. They will grow tall and weak, a growth pattern which is very attractive to many common diseases and pests. In effect you can 'kill them by kindness.'
A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
Some of us would rather spend our precious gardening time growing seeds, cuttings, divisions etc that will give us a reward. Far better, IMHO, to sow seed from plants that will give results sooner, but if you're under 30, I suppose you have more time to spare to wait for a plum.
There are so many fruit and veg varieties for specific planting and weather conditions that I'd get more satisfaction from growing seeds from a rose/bulb/perennial/clematis which will produce flowers in a few years with any luck and may be something special or just for the compost heap.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
That sounds like loosing sight of the fact that messing with plants, germinating seeds, (elements or gardening/horticulture etc) is an interest to some people.
No ... you misunderstand me ☹️ ... “messing with plants, germinating seeds ....” etc etc is a huge interest of mine ... I’ve been doing it since I was three ... for part of that time on a small holding and an allotment as well as numerous gardens ... messing with plants has been such a big part of my life that it had infected my daughter and she now gardens as a job.
I suppose for me the important thing is that I come from a long line of farmers who have bred prizewinning sheep, pigs and cows etc with the aim for every generation of animal to be better, stronger, healthier and more productive than the last.
The same thing goes for crops ... with my grandfather, father and now my brother aiming to produce more food for the nation from the same acreage by learning from the generation before and improving on that.
The farm where I grew up had an orchard ... the pear trees were magnificent ... huge things taller than the farmhouse and needing a man on a thatching ladder to go up after the fruit ... there used to be a saying “you plant pears for your heirs” ... this was because the trees had to be quite mature before they would produce fruit.
Horticultural knowledge has increased and we no longer have to wait more than a generation to pick our pears. When we moved here a few years ago I planted a Concorde pear tree whip which had been grafted onto a dwarfing rootstock .... I was picking pears just four years later ... but if I’d just planted a pear pip I’d be pushing up the daisies and probably my daughter would too, before my granddaughter is able to pick pears from that pear tree.
But your garden is your garden and you do what interests you.
Anyone who likes growing things is my sort of person 😊
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I put the first of the three plum trees outside yesterday afternoon, based on the advice on here.
Left in full sun on the lawn until the evening, then near to the wall from the evening onwards.
The long term intention is not to fetch it back in the house at all. If at some stage the winter weather is deamed too harsh, then temporary shelter by a window in the garage may be appropriate. (I still remember the minus 7 degree winter from about 8 years ago).
The two that remain indoors are a bit on the small side at the momen-about 5 inch tall (photos). Might be best to get a little more growth on them?
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I read an article once about the dangers of growing potatoes from bought ones. @Dovefromabove may remember?
I don't perceive it as a problem. I see it as a greater challenge. The greater the challenge that I overcome equals a greater satisfaction, and a deeper appreciation.
Your plants, your choice though.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Named varieties that you find on sale in GCs and nurseries are grafted stems with a rootstock chosen to determine vigour and eventual size which can vary from being suitable for growing as a small cordon, an espalier, a small tree or a full sized tree.
Any soft new growth is attractive to aphids or other pests so the sooner you get the seedlings hardened off and toughened up the better. Meanwhile, squish aphids with your finger and wait for the ladybirds and lacewings and hoverflies to hoover up the rest.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
There are so many fruit and veg varieties for specific planting and weather conditions that I'd get more satisfaction from growing seeds from a rose/bulb/perennial/clematis which will produce flowers in a few years with any luck and may be something special or just for the compost heap.
I suppose for me the important thing is that I come from a long line of farmers who have bred prizewinning sheep, pigs and cows etc with the aim for every generation of animal to be better, stronger, healthier and more productive than the last.
The same thing goes for crops ... with my grandfather, father and now my brother aiming to produce more food for the nation from the same acreage by learning from the generation before and improving on that.
The farm where I grew up had an orchard ... the pear trees were magnificent ... huge things taller than the farmhouse and needing a man on a thatching ladder to go up after the fruit ... there used to be a saying “you plant pears for your heirs” ... this was because the trees had to be quite mature before they would produce fruit.
Horticultural knowledge has increased and we no longer have to wait more than a generation to pick our pears. When we moved here a few years ago I planted a Concorde pear tree whip which had been grafted onto a dwarfing rootstock .... I was picking pears just four years later ... but if I’d just planted a pear pip I’d be pushing up the daisies and probably my daughter would too, before my granddaughter is able to pick pears from that pear tree.
But your garden is your garden and you do what interests you.
Anyone who likes growing things is my sort of person 😊
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Left in full sun on the lawn until the evening, then near to the wall from the evening onwards.
The long term intention is not to fetch it back in the house at all. If at some stage the winter weather is deamed too harsh, then temporary shelter by a window in the garage may be appropriate. (I still remember the minus 7 degree winter from about 8 years ago).
The two that remain indoors are a bit on the small side at the momen-about 5 inch tall (photos). Might be best to get a little more growth on them?