I have some David Austin roses that I have had in containers for a good 4 years now and the pots are not the biggest. They are pot bound and are not performing that great and their growth is quite stunted. I am moving house in a month or so and want to put them in the ground.
My question is will they be ok to be transferred to the ground and will they start to do really well and grow properly... Or is it best to start a fresh with new young roses that will grow straight into the ground?
Thanks Craigh
Pot bound roses like those you have do not establish well when transferred to the garden like that, it's not good practice to do it that way and I doubt a professional rosarian would do so.. not at this time of year nor in winter... you should consider waiting until mid October [they won't die], remove roses from pots and bare root them immediately... scraping away old compost which can be used with the backfill, trimming the framework back to 1 foot high, and using sharp scissors or secateurs trim the roots back by half... this reinvigorates the rootstock,... ...you will then have fresh compact bare root roses ready for easy to prepare planting holes.. ...they will establish much better during the winter and spring... and it's really very easy to do.. ..however, the choice is yours, you may also prefer to buy different roses.. best of luck..
That sounds like a good idea @Marlorena that is exactly what I will do rather than throw or give them away!
@celcius_kkw Well they do ok... But soon start to produce spindly stems and the odd thick stem. There is definately fewer roses than the ones planted in the gound. My Gran and I both purchased Gentle Hermione and both went straight Into pots. After a year my Gran transferred hers into the ground and mine stayed in its container. And within one year the difference was huge!
My Grans rose doubled in size and grew lots of lovely very thick canes and it looks stunning and produces tons of roses! Mine however still looks like a young rose with the odd thick cane and lots of thinner ones. It also doesn't repeat bloom very well either.
So I think if you are going to keep them in pots they need to be quite big!
This is one of them. See there is the odd thick cane with a good bunch of roses and the others are thin and short with one tiny rose on it. It should be full of clusters!... You can see very thin shoots on the pic below even though it's coming from a thick ish stem.
And here is gentle Hermione... Not looking very good!
This one is Munstead Wood... This one is a baby however it grew one nice size stem in the spring and flowered... I then deadheaded it and it has produced another couple of roses on that same stem but the stems are only 2-3 inches long? Why has that happened?
Munstead Wood can be slow to settle in. This spring and summer I have managed to plant out some of my roses whch had been in pots for 3 years waiting for us to get a bed prepared in this new, to us, garden. What with drought and heatwaves and poor soil it's taken a while to work over the soil and dig in plenty of manure.
There's Malvern Hills, Lady of the Lake, Breathless Charm, Fighting Temeraire, Lady Emma Hamilton, The Lark Ascending, Benjamin Britten and the only one that hasn't taken off is Munstead Wood. She is looking OK and even has a flower now but is just slow. Worth waiting for tho.
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This is one of them. See there is the odd thick cane with a good bunch of roses and the others are thin and short with one tiny rose on it. It should be full of clusters!... You can see very thin shoots on the pic below even though it's coming from a thick ish stem.
And here is gentle Hermione... Not looking very good!
I see. I thought new shoots will always have slim stems but given time it should firm up and becoming thicker? I have been spraying a lot with fungus killer and i must say and I noticed that the plants do become much healthier as a result. How big are your pots by the way?
Most are 60cms wide and deep. One or two are bigger and those in which I've grown cuttings on are smaller. They get potted on as soon as I see roots peeping out the bottom and I check regularly.
If your plants are well fed and watered and aerated they should not need any fungal spray or insecticides. Better to build a strong plant that fights disease than nurse one that's weak and spindly. Starving roses don't thrive.
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...you will then have fresh compact bare root roses ready for easy to prepare planting holes..
...they will establish much better during the winter and spring... and it's really very easy to do..
..however, the choice is yours, you may also prefer to buy different roses.. best of luck..
@celcius_kkw Well they do ok... But soon start to produce spindly stems and the odd thick stem. There is definately fewer roses than the ones planted in the gound. My Gran and I both purchased Gentle Hermione and both went straight Into pots. After a year my Gran transferred hers into the ground and mine stayed in its container. And within one year the difference was huge!
My Grans rose doubled in size and grew lots of lovely very thick canes and it looks stunning and produces tons of roses! Mine however still looks like a young rose with the odd thick cane and lots of thinner ones. It also doesn't repeat bloom very well either.
So I think if you are going to keep them in pots they need to be quite big!
You can see very thin shoots on the pic below even though it's coming from a thick ish stem.
And here is gentle Hermione... Not looking very good!
There's Malvern Hills, Lady of the Lake, Breathless Charm, Fighting Temeraire, Lady Emma Hamilton, The Lark Ascending, Benjamin Britten and the only one that hasn't taken off is Munstead Wood. She is looking OK and even has a flower now but is just slow. Worth waiting for tho.
If your plants are well fed and watered and aerated they should not need any fungal spray or insecticides. Better to build a strong plant that fights disease than nurse one that's weak and spindly. Starving roses don't thrive.