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Weedkiller question, that old chestnut

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I find Monsanto to be an amoral company so don't use its products.   When I did use glyphosate it was always a generic form.   As for its being safe, it ha sbeen found in water courses, crops, human bodies and is a likely cause of cancers and birth defects in areas of the world where it is mis-used in too high concentrations and too little protection.

    Back to hoeing and cutting out daylight to weaken and kill weeds for us.

    Austria has just banned the use of glyphosate everywhere.  France has banned it in public places such as parks and roadside plantations in towns and villages.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • You have answered my question ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much.
  • glasgowdanglasgowdan Posts: 632
    Everything is a likely cause of cancer. The difference is that nobody has any evidence that glyphosate actually is! And check what the EPA have officially said
  • Dirty HarryDirty Harry Posts: 1,048
    Everything is a likely cause of cancer. The difference is that nobody has any evidence that glyphosate actually is! And check what the EPA have officially said
    I doubt using it in between my paving slabs for weeds that can't be pulled out by the root is doing much harm to anything other than the weeds.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Obelixx said:
    I find Monsanto to be an amoral company so don't use its products.   When I did use glyphosate it was always a generic form.   As for its being safe, it ha sbeen found in water courses, crops, human bodies and is a likely cause of cancers and birth defects in areas of the world where it is mis-used in too high concentrations and too little protection.

    Back to hoeing and cutting out daylight to weaken and kill weeds for us.

    Austria has just banned the use of glyphosate everywhere.  France has banned it in public places such as parks and roadside plantations in towns and villages.
    the most important line there is :
    "where it is mis-used in too high concentrations and too little protection."
    When they ban tobacco and alcohol  then they can look at glyphosate IMHO.
    Devon.
  • glasgowdanglasgowdan Posts: 632
    edited July 2019
    I saw a reporter ask a guy who was representing Glyphosate if he'd drink it. The guy said "no, I'm not stupid", which the reporter twisted into "aha because you secretly know it causes cancer". THAT'S the level of the anti glyphosate movement. 

    Urine is harmless... You wouldn't drink it though. 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Check the various products available with a glyphosate base.  The "Super" or "Extra" generally just have a higher percentage of glyphosate than the bog standard version.  I have sometimes found it can work out considerably cheaper overall to buy the high strength version and then dilute to match the bog standard version.  For example a 500ml bottle of normal strength is £10, the same size bottle of double strength is £15 rather than £20.  It doesn't always work out that way so always worth checking.

  • KT53 said:
    Check the various products available with a glyphosate base.  The "Super" or "Extra" generally just have a higher percentage of glyphosate than the bog standard version.  I have sometimes found it can work out considerably cheaper overall to buy the high strength version and then dilute to match the bog standard version.  For example a 500ml bottle of normal strength is £10, the same size bottle of double strength is £15 rather than £20.  It doesn't always work out that way so always worth checking.


    Good point KT53, thanks. I've actually just bought 5L Clinic Up at 360g/l which seems to be about right. I've used Clinic Ace 360g/l before and that worked well enough.
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