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Curmudgeons' Corner 3. I blame it on the scapegoat🐐

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    josusa47 said:
    Didn't some football fans get turned on to opera when Pavarotti singing "Nessun dorma" was used as the theme for the world cup?
    Maybe that's the answer?? stop all the stupid waffling by "pundits" and just play opera over it. Is anyone actually interested in what they're saying anyway?
    Devon.
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    Not a fan of football or opera but love good music and still listen to Freddie Mercury and Montserrat CaballƩ ( probably not counted by real opera fans ) and I agree with Dove it's always good to experience new things. Then you can decide never to experience them again - like my go-karting evening!
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."Ā  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Opera snobs may turn their noses up at the Mercury/CaballƩ collaboration ... real music lovers applauded loudly and stamped their feet ...
    great art of all kinds is created when artists cross boundaries 😊 



    Gardening in Central NorfolkĀ on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I was just thinking I hadn't been bitten yet this year. Mistake! I have what i think will be a spectacular effort. Bitten about twenty minutes ago and it's already the size and shape of a chocolate button.😔
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    edited July 2019
    Because it’s actually good for folk to experience things they thought they didn’t like Ā ... Ā and because people’s tastes Ā change and develop ...
    Nope, not buying that argument. If the Wimbledon Finals were televised across one weekend in July but the rest of the two weeks tennis was on a sport channel, and if the FA Cup Final, maybe one or two of the big international competitions - was on BBC1 but all the rest of the football was on a sports channel, I wouldn't have anything to say about it. I may not watch it, but I'd accept your point that to present the very best sporting events on mainstream TV would give people who don't usually watch it a chance to try something new. Much like the Grand National is on TV but there is a race meeting somewhere in the UK every day except Sundays and they don't show them all. One race a year is plenty. And one rowing event. If you like it, then you can watch more of it on the sports channel.
    I'd completely support televising wider cultural 'stuff' on the same basis - why not coverage of (say) Glyndebourne to the same extent as Glastonbury? And a Folk Festival. The Stirling Prize as well as the Turner Prize.Ā 
    If all these things were given equal weight in promotions and hype as a rugby match and the interminable cricket competitions, you could argue that it achieves cultural diversity and exposure.
    But what the blanket coverage of sport - to the exclusion of everything else, pretty much - achieves is to reinforce existing 'silos'. As a sports fan, you may see a difference between tennis that you love and Formula 1 that you don't. To someone who doesn't enjoy watching sport on TV, it is all the same. Golf, Snooker, Cycle racing - who cares? It's overwhelming, overbearing and I hate it.

    So there.Ā  :)

    I think I'd better go a dig a hole and plant something in it
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    ā€œIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.ā€Ā 
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    So much good music out there but often avoided because it is the wrong genre. Who invented that idea? Still not a fan of opera or football but do enjoy some of the music.

    Sympathy for the bite @B3 have you got any honey or chamomile to soothe it?
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."Ā  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Because it’s actually good for folk to experience things they thought they didn’t like Ā ... Ā and because people’s tastes Ā change and develop ...
    Nope, not buying that argument. If the Wimbledon Finals were televised across one weekend in July but the rest of the two weeks tennis was on a sport channel, and if the FA Cup Final, maybe one or two of the big international competitions - was on BBC1 but all the rest of the football was on a sports channel, I wouldn't have anything to say about it. I may not watch it, but I'd accept your point that to present the very best sporting events on mainstream TV would give people who don't usually watch it a chance to try something new. Much like the Grand National is on TV but there is a race meeting somewhere in the UK every day except Sundays and they don't show them all. One race a year is plenty. And one rowing event. If you like it, then you can watch more of it on the sports channel.
    I'd completely support televising wider cultural 'stuff' on the same basis - why not coverage of (say) Glyndebourne to the same extent as Glastonbury? And a Folk Festival. The Stirling Prize as well as the Turner Prize.Ā 
    If all these things were given equal weight in promotions and hype as a rugby match and the interminable cricket competitions, you could argue that it achieves cultural diversity and exposure.
    But what the blanket coverage of sport - to the exclusion of everything else, pretty much - achieves is to reinforce existing 'silos'. As a sports fan, you may see a difference between tennis that you love and Formula 1 that you don't. To someone who doesn't enjoy watching sport on TV, it is all the same. Golf, Snooker, Cycle racing - who cares? It's overwhelming, overbearing and I hate it.

    So there.Ā  :)

    I think I'd better go a dig a hole and plant something in it
    Couldn't agree more.Ā 
    I once phoned the BBC to complain that Gardeners' World had been cancelled for the Open Golf which had 11 , yes eleven hours of coverage that day. I asked if 10 1/2 hours of golf and half an hour of GW would have upset the golf fans. Silence!!!
    Devon.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Thanks @herbaceous. I used aloe vera gel.
    It's taken some of the itch away, but it's still getting bigger.

    I suppose sport, quizzes and cookery programmes are cheaper television than dramas. No actors etc to pay. Although in football, you get the acting thrown in for nothing.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    Good move @B3 my friend vera usually takes a bit of a hit at this time of year too. Ice packs will help as well and speed up the recovery - but I expect you are doing that too.

    I am all for people participation but why does it have to be a fierce competition? Competition is healthy but making mistakes is how we learn surely, I would rather not 'win' but have improved some skill. Although I came last in the go-karting and the only thing I learned was - don't do that againĀ  :D
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."Ā  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I'm afraid I just haven't got the competitive instinct. If I'm going to lose, I would rather be the absolute worst than put all my effort in to just miss. i suppose deciding to fail spectacularly is a form of competitiveness toošŸ˜’
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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