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Virginia creeper dying

Hi the house we bought has a Virginia creeper growing up the garage we have been here 2 years and last year it was fine but this year it doesn’t look very happy, the whole middle is bare and just looks like dried up vines, there are healthy leaves at the very top and sides which I assume are the newer growth, it looks really unsightly does it should like the older vines have died? How best to remove the creeper if it is dying in the middle? We dint know how long it’s been here but is very well established can any one please help
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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    Are there new leaves below the middle bit? It can stand hard pruning. Mine has 1 - 2 metres chopped off every year and it grows back. It's growing in places I don't want it and I've pulled it up, dug it up and even sprayed it with glyphosate and it still grows back.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • l_harknessl_harkness Posts: 11
    Thanks for your reply,no there doesn't seem to be any leaves at the bottom either if it didn't have leaves at the sides or top I would swear it was dead
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    BL is right  they're pretty tough and problem free once established. 
    I wonder if, like many plants,  it's simply suffering the effects from the drought last year. The problem often shows up when plants should be growing away and looking good.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • BrexiteerBrexiteer Posts: 955
    I'd say drought if not watered last year. So many people are reporting shrubs and privet dying, something you wouldn't normally water
  • l_harknessl_harkness Posts: 11
    Fairygirl said:
    BL is right  they're pretty tough and problem free once established. 
    I wonder if, like many plants,  it's simply suffering the effects from the drought last year. The problem often shows up when plants should be growing away and looking good.
    Thanks yea that could be the problem after the hot weather last year I just don't know what to do about it now do I cut it right back? To be honest I would quite like to get rid of it now if it's not going to do and out something else in its place but I don't know how to get rid of it
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I think I'd cut it back. If it's still alive, it will be struggling to support the top growth if the soil is really dehydrated.
    Water really thoroughly, give it a few weeks, and see what happens. If it's planted really close to the wall, it would be drier at it's feet anyway.

    Difficult without seeing a photo though.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • l_harknessl_harkness Posts: 11
    Fairygirl said:
    I think I'd cut it back. If it's still alive, it will be struggling to support the top growth if the soil is really dehydrated.
    Water really thoroughly, give it a few weeks, and see what happens. If it's planted really close to the wall, it would be drier at it's feet anyway.

    Difficult without seeing a photo though.

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    It looks like you have Boston Ivy as well as V. Creeper. The B.Ivy is getting the upper hand. They will easily cover a huge area, and both are encroaching on your gutttering/roof, so it would be a good idea to trim them back to below that. 

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • l_harknessl_harkness Posts: 11
    Fairygirl said:
    It looks like you have Boston Ivy as well as V. Creeper. The B.Ivy is getting the upper hand. They will easily cover a huge area, and both are encroaching on your gutttering/roof, so it would be a good idea to trim them back to below that. 

    Thank you for your help we plan on getting it cut back today
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    That that looks like weather damage ... as if it had been kept in a very sheltered position and was then suddenly moved to string hot sunlight. 

    Now it’s happened I’d either pot it on or plant it into its permanent position with a bit of protection and keep an eye on it ... 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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