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Climbing blackcurrant and climbing raspberry autumn bliss

I bought a blackcurrant climbing plant and a raspberry autumn bliss climbing plant has anyone grown these types and how do they do climbing.
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However, I think I've seen blackcurrants trained against a wall - possibly espaliered - so it may be worth Googling espalier and wall training for blackcurrants.
Similarly, I can't think of a reason why you couldn't train an autumn fruiting raspberry to a wall or fence. People do grow them in large pots as well and train them around canes.
Does that help at all?