^A good use of bags @Purplerain … I must admit I hadn't thought of that one..
I've just planted one as a matter of fact, an old Alba rose bred before 1840 and it only has 2 canes.... I can't complain about that... it's a rare type...
Actually, I've just checked it and it does have 3 canes not 2, so it's a grade A, as one would expect from Mr White..
Marlorena, I received Dizzy Heights from Davis Austin this year with just two stems (and was charged £17.50). Your thinking on this thread has seen me sending them an email.
Thanks for passing on your experience to those of us who don't really know what is fair and reasonable.
Oh that's ok, thank you @gutties … that rose has a gorgeous colour but I've heard it's very prone to blackspot, so you need to watch out for that.. you might be lucky... For the money and reputation, I would have expected a rose with 3 canes but apparently this rose in particular is not one that easily produces canes from the base in the first season, so that's probably why you got one with just 2... probably needed another year growing..
Nothing wrong in complaining, sometimes it just isn't good enough, so let us know how you get on... their customer service in this country is better than most, I have to say that in favour of them... in my experience..
@gutties … this is an area where I'm probably not the best person to advise because quite simply I never spray roses.. ever…. not for anything, and in fact I'm so totally against spraying that it actually makes me a little cross... all my roses are grown 'hard' as far as this issue is concerned.. obviously I feed them..
If you want to use something for foliage issues, then Uncle Tom's Rose Tonic is one I would probably be o.k with if I wanted to go down that route.... I would avoid any fungus treatment that contains 'Tebuconazole'... although it's not banned here, recent reports suggest it may be detrimental to human health.. besides, all fungus treatments whichever the name brand you use, are thought now to cause adverse reactions to mycorrhizal around the root systems of roses, because these treatments are 'systemic'.. i.e. they get right down to the roots..
Try and manage without spraying, and see how you get on.. and don't worry about aphids either... a strong growing rose will outgrow any infestation...
Yes to some extent, but the main reason I think, is that some nurseries lift roses too soon in order to clear their rose fields, usually by mechanical methods, and they will sell whatever they can, consequently some roses have probably not been growing in the ground more than one season...perhaps less... evidenced by thin canes and small roots... ... other nurseries will not sell a rose until it's developed those extra canes to a certain thickness, so it qualifies as a Grade A, and that can take another year, which means more expense to them but a better reputation...
Near where I live in East Anglia, there are many rose fields which are planted up fresh every year.. they rotate the fields each time.. they appear like magic during winter, and by the following November they are all cleared and the field is barren again.. so none of the roses will have been growing for more than a year..
Here are a few pics of these rose fields... most of these are David Austin roses, although that does not mean the fields belong to them.. I do know which nurseries supply these roses.. the growth is good and they all look high quality so you would expect decent bare roots..
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I've just planted one as a matter of fact, an old Alba rose bred before 1840 and it only has 2 canes.... I can't complain about that... it's a rare type...
Actually, I've just checked it and it does have 3 canes not 2, so it's a grade A, as one would expect from Mr White..
For the money and reputation, I would have expected a rose with 3 canes but apparently this rose in particular is not one that easily produces canes from the base in the first season, so that's probably why you got one with just 2... probably needed another year growing..
Nothing wrong in complaining, sometimes it just isn't good enough, so let us know how you get on... their customer service in this country is better than most, I have to say that in favour of them... in my experience..
If you want to use something for foliage issues, then Uncle Tom's Rose Tonic is one I would probably be o.k with if I wanted to go down that route.... I would avoid any fungus treatment that contains 'Tebuconazole'... although it's not banned here, recent reports suggest it may be detrimental to human health.. besides, all fungus treatments whichever the name brand you use, are thought now to cause adverse reactions to mycorrhizal around the root systems of roses, because these treatments are 'systemic'.. i.e. they get right down to the roots..
Try and manage without spraying, and see how you get on.. and don't worry about aphids either... a strong growing rose will outgrow any infestation...
... other nurseries will not sell a rose until it's developed those extra canes to a certain thickness, so it qualifies as a Grade A, and that can take another year, which means more expense to them but a better reputation...
Here are a few pics of these rose fields... most of these are David Austin roses, although that does not mean the fields belong to them.. I do know which nurseries supply these roses.. the growth is good and they all look high quality so you would expect decent bare roots..