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DA Emma Hamilton Rose dropping in pot / some flowers dying before fully opening

Hi Everyone,

I'm after some advice / reassurance on a rose we bought earlier in the year. It's growing well and has bloomed 2-3 times but the shape wasn't as I had expected. It started off upright but as it's grown it's dropping and starting to look untidy. 

I'm not wondering if I need to move it to a bigger pot and stake it? It's currently on a south facing patio and had some rose feed at the beginning of summer. I've also noticed that 2 out of the 3 blooms the flowers haven't properly opened and seem to die before they fully open.

I've attached 2 photos.. 1 to show that the flowers when they were blooming well and the plant as it is now.

Any advice would be most welcomed.

Kind regards..

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    We have a rose enthusiast @Marlorena on these boards who grows a lot of roses and has a theory about DA roses.  She reckons it takes up to 3 years for them to settle down.  I suspect you need a bigger pot to allow extra room for roots to grow and seek out moisture and nutrients.

    I have DA roses in pots awaiting new homes in the ground in this new, to us, garden and give them a spring feed of pelleted chicken manure and then a dollop of organic food for flowering plants and occasional liquid feeds of tomato food between waterings.  Have to remember that in a pot they are entirely dependent on your for food and water.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @rylanlrussel

    Thanks for posting such a good photo... I can tell you exactly what has happened there, and I'm sorry but your rose has suckered and you are nurturing the sucker... your original rose 'Lady Emma Hamilton' is still in there somewhere, if you look right in the middle of the pot you can see the foliage and a single bud from that rose.. all the rest of your rose is the wild rootstock, rosa canina 'Laxa', which all roses in this country are grafted onto.... 

    You must cut out all that growth in order to keep your original rose, or it will die off completely...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    What I would do, and I hope you are able to do this too, would be to take that out of the pot as soon as possible, totally cut out all that rootstock growth right back to its source, and keep what little canes you've got that grow above the graft union... that is your 'Lady Emma Hamilton' rose, all the parts above the graft... there isn't much of it left I'm afraid...   after you've cut out the wild rootstock and removed all that growth, put your rose back in the pot, fill up with fresh compost, and hope for the best... it's retrievable easily, if you know what you're doing...
    East Anglia, England
  • Thank you Obelixx for your advice and for tagging Marlorena. 
    Marlorena thank you so much for your diagnosis and suggested treatment . I'll carry these out over the weekend and keep my fingers crossed for a full recovery! 
    Thank you both again  
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    No problem... I hope it recovers for you...
    East Anglia, England
  • Thanks @Marlorena she certainly looks better lets hope for a full recovery and thank you for the advice - I've certainly learnt something new!  :)




  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @OxfordColour

    ..oh wow, you've got your rose back !  well done,... and you've got more left than I thought there would be... onwards and upwards for 'LEH'...

    ..just a word of further advice if you're still about... and there's no need to do anything about it now, but in future, it's best to bury that graft union, even in pots, because it encourages to roots to sucker if you leave it exposed...

    ..next time you'll know the difference.... take care...
    East Anglia, England
  • @Marlorena thank you again for your words of wisdom! I'll do this later this week. Thank you 
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