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Can anyone please help me with this decision? We have recently had a new 6ft fence put in along our gravel drive. There are 7 panels (6ft x 6ft), with every other one having a space to plant a climber (5), one of these already has our old Clematis montana in, that we cut right back for the fencing to go in and will hopefully recover. The top part of the fence has trellis on. The fence is East facing, facing our house, but with about 20ft dividing space between house and fence. Behind the fence is a ugly agricultural yard and our neighbour has access across part of the drive so we do have to stop any climbers from encroaching too much over the driveway. It can be a bit of a wind tunnel and is in the shade for the morning. Our soil is very sandy. We're East Midlands/North area and pretty rural. I would like to grow climbing/rambling rose or two up the fence, with possibly some other climbers inter mingling. In an ideal world I would like the roses to be minimal on the thorns, strong scented and flowering most of summer, thinking Clare Austen;Generous Gardener; Shropshire Lad;Teasing Georgia;Zephirine Drouhin. It would be great to grow other climbers to mingle and create a year round flowering or visual delight to brighten up and give a better view. Any help and suggestions much appreciated. Holmoak
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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    It's a pain having an ''ugly agricultural yard'' as your neighbour, but I sometimes think it's better than a mass of housing with windows staring back at you...  my neighbour is agricultural too but perhaps not quite as ugly.. so I have a similar set up, with fences the same height and length...  I'm not interested in landscape gardening, so mine is a free ranging, rambling sort of garden, but controlled and managed because of neighbouring properties, considerations such as you have there too...

    For winter flowering I have a few shrubs and other things of interest, but my climbing roses are obviously May to November...   If interested, I can tell you about some of the roses you mention and maybe later show you some others of mine with photos... some of the rebloom is sparse, or sporadic on some of those you mention..

    For your fence panels, might I suggest you also look at the larger shrub roses, instead of climbing roses, they will probably be more suitable, and not so rampant...I can show you photos later if you are interested..  I also have some low thorn roses..
    You will have to watch your clematis montana as it can swamp everything else..

    'Zephirine Drouhin'.. rambling along...

    East Anglia, England
  • Mary370Mary370 Posts: 2,003
    That is a beautiful picture marlorena.........a great combination of colours!
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Is that a phlox in the middle?
  • Fire said:
    Is that a phlox in the middle?
    or maybe Hesperis matronalis (Sweet rocket) ?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Yes...Hesperis... and thanks Mary for your kind comment...
    East Anglia, England
  • It looks gorgeous @Marlorena :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Thanks Dove, very much... one tries...
    East Anglia, England
  • Thanks Marlorena, lovely pic. Yes, my type of gardening is the wild look but having to conform a bit at the front. Would love to hear more about which roses you have and how they perform. I'm trying to be a bit more thoughtful about my choices as have made bad choices in past, mind you they were in pots and I'm the worlds worse at regular watering. Shrubs I'm not so sure about due to not having a bed in front just 5 cut outs, each just over a foot square. Maybe? I'm also thinking about a rose on the house wall, so that would be West facing if you have any suggestions for that.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I know what you mean about pots, I'm not great with those either and prefer to get things in the ground if possible... 
    Just going over your rose choices, they are all fine roses, but if you want low thorn I would leave out 'Teasing Georgia' because it has some pretty big nasty ones, and think about replacing it with 'Bathsheba', which is a large growing wiry rambling or climbing type, with few thorns... nice scent, sometimes I think the smell is like freshly mown grass...
    As for your house wall, there are some considerations.. the colour of the wall [I wouldn't want to put white on white personally, or red against red brick]… support for the rose in place with wires etc.. and how big and wide do you want it..  West facing is not a problem.  Also scent isn't so important on a house wall because you're not likely to be sniffing it up there too much, unless it's right against windows... so I don't worry about that..

    You best choose from a reputable supplier whichever colour you want, but if it's white, then you could do worse than 'Climbing Iceberg'...  which also has few thorns..

    A couple blooms of 'Bathsheba'..




    East Anglia, England
  • Ahh, Teasing Georgia, don't know how that came onto my short list then but many thanks for pointing it out. Bathsheba looks lovely and just the ticket, will look into. My house is cream so bold, dark colours seem like a good idea and I'd still prefer the strong scents, mad but can never get my head around a rose that has no scent. Thank you for taking the time Marlorena
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