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Grape vine identified

My brother has inherited two grape vines which are doing really well in his garden and he would very much like to know what variety he has can anyone help please. 

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  • steephillsteephill Posts: 2,841
    Apart from the colour of the ripe grapes  the shape of the leaves and the grape bunches are the most useful identifying characteristics. Select a typical leaf and photograph it lying flat so that you can see if it has lobes and holes. With grape bunches is it conical or cylindrical, does  it have a single bunch or is there a main bunch and a smaller side bunch?

    Once you know this it is easier to find a match online or in reference books. Outdoor grapes in the UK are likely to be from a limited range not including the main commercial wine varieties such as syrah, cabernet sauvingnon or merlot although it is still possible. I have a merlot growing in the garden as well as a Leon Millot.

    If you could post photos as I suggested above it would help us find possible matches.
  • Most grapes look the same alas. Are they seeded or not. A best selling seeded /red grape is Hamburg - which the tale goes, comes from a vine originally planted in Henry the Eighth's grardeners in Hampton Court. 
    If a grape is seedless this would narrow it down a lot, to a "dessert" grape
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    This is the first vine the grapes grow with one main bunch with a smaller second bunch with a conical shape. 

  • This is the second vine the grape bunches grow as just one main bunch and the bunches are more cylindrical and grow very close the the vine. 
  • Both the grape varieties have seeds and are small grapes not large dessert grapes
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