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Rose - Paul's Himalayan Musk - 1 or 2?

Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
I have a pergola (approx 15ft x 20ft) that was covered in several pink climbing and rambling roses (see below).
I had landscaping works done behind the pergola and sadly the roses had to be removed 3 years ago.
I now want to replace the roses and have decided on Paul's Himalayan Musk.
I was wondering if one would cover the entire thing or if I'd need 2 or 3.
I don't need to plant them in the same place as the previous roses, so hopefully I can avoid rose sickness.

This is how it was before they came out (as you can see, they were never pruned in 20 years)


The landscaping behind is complete now and I'd like to get roses back on the now bare pergola again. I've drawn arrows where I think may be best to plant it/them


1 or 2 (or 3) Paul's Himalayan Musk?
My garden faces south, so the plants would be inclined to grow toward the back of the pergola - the pergola widens out to about 20ft to the left, so there's space for a 3rd if needed

Thanks

Billericay - Essex

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  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    PH musk is pretty big - I have one romping up a 100ft tree.  I would have thought 1 might actually be sufficient.

    its going to look stunning 😀
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...  your original garden was very lovely indeed with the roses in bloom... 

    Half of one 'PHM' would be enough for me, in fact I wouldn't get it at all as there are better ramblers out there these days, but if it's what your heart desires then best of luck with your choice of 1, 2 or 3... 
    East Anglia, England
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Marlorena said:
    ...  your original garden was very lovely indeed with the roses in bloom... 

    Half of one 'PHM' would be enough for me, in fact I wouldn't get it at all as there are better ramblers out there these days, but if it's what your heart desires then best of luck with your choice of 1, 2 or 3... 
    Thanks Chicky and Marlorena.
    I'm open to suggestions re. alternatives Marlorena - something similar in appearance to PHM either pink or pink/white - scented would be nice, and scented with hips in the winter even nice-erer.
    The original combination was Frances Lester (at the back) and Felicite et Perpetue at the front with another double flowered rambler (I've forgotten the name) on the far left side at at the back 

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Well, gosh, with all those upright posts you could plant several different varieties of varying heights and flowering abilities, i.e. summer only or repeat.. but only you know what you want, and I think you've already decided on that, but wouldn't you like 'Frances E Lester' again?... scent, hips, and trainable... 
    ...but if it was mine, I would be choosing maybe 6 different ones for the pergola..  which I presume is sturdy, i.e. the cross bars are not rotting or anything..

    I doubt my choices would be yours though - so good luck … I'm sure it will look great in time...

    East Anglia, England
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    I had Paul's Himalayan Musk up the front of a 2-storey farmhouse in Northumberland.  It looked gorgeous for 2 weeks... but had to be removed from under the roof slates every year.  It's a monster - albeit a beautiful one when in flower.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I dug mine out, far to big and didn’t flower for long. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    As ever I appreciate your thoughts and views, and on reflection I think I should reconsider.
    Having a browse, so far I like The Garland and I think it would look good toward the front, and Paul Noel may work as a more vigorous repeat flowering companion behind - food for thought.
    Both I think would be easier to tame than PHM

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • I have PHM and though beautiful it has a very brief flowering period. Contemplating removing it this year. Had to remove a beautiful, very fragrant Compassion climber for the new conservatory and am thinking of replacing PHM, which is a very vicious and huge plant, with 2 x Compassion. They do grow quite high but nothing like PHM. Mixed with clematis on my pergola I am confirming my view as I write!
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