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Plant suggestions under pine tree

We have a large (25-30ft) pine tree in the NW corner of our garden and we've generally left the ground under it bare.  However I've now decided it's time to tackle it properly and plant it up.

Most of the lower branches have been removed (to about 8ft) so the front half gets some sun in the mornings but the back is pretty much permanent shade.

So I'd like some suggestions for plants that will grow, look pretty across the year, and that'll cope in the partial/full shade. What would you suggest?

I've bought a 2 ferns that like shade (one is asplenium scolopendrium) , a heuchera (lime marmalade) and a lamium maculatum so far.

TIA,
   Adrian

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  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,904
    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=430
    I suspect your enemy is not going to be shade, but lack of moisture. Have a look at the link for recommendations on the RHS website.
    My dry shade is covered in ivy. I have a very large area on a boundary of 60-80ft Scots pines and I just mow it now and again to keep it tidy. At least it's green.  :)
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I don't think you're going to get much to grow under a mature pine Adrian.
    The soil will be bone dry for several feet down and if it's dark too - how's a plant going to survive? (apart from ivy)
    You may get away with spring bulbs.
    Or see if you can get some ideas from these guys - moore & moore - a nursery just down the road from me. They have a specialist section for plants for dry shade.

    Billericay - Essex

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    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    Geranium nodosum, Hypericum androsaemum and Lunaria annua do well in dry shade here. Cyclamen hederifolium might but I have only tried them in deciduous shade


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    PS, and Campanula trachelium


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Thanks so far - I'll try a few of those suggestions but not the geranium as we have lots of skugs/snails.

    I agree about the soil being dry but in the south facing area next to the tree (so I assume also fairly dry but not shaded) is our strawberry patch which does incredibly well!

    I'll also try the company you suggested Pete8.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    Geranium nodosum is a native plant and I've yet to find it troubled by anything :) 


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    They don't deliver Adrian, but you may get some ideas. They were featured on GW a few weeks ago as they are specialists for plants for dry shade.
    The main problem you'll face is getting anything established - you'll need to keep on top of watering for the 1st season.
    The geraniums nut mentioned will not be attacked by slugs - another geranium that may work is geranium phaeum which will scramble around.
    Don't confuse geraniums with perlargoniums - they're not the same
    Good luck

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Thanks Pete8. I live in NW Kent so Billericay isn't too far from me.
    The RHS website said that geranium was prone to slugs and snails but I'll ignore that and maybe give them a go.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Never had slugs nor snails attempt anything on any of my hardy geraniums.   :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Never had slugs nor snails attempt anything on any of my hardy geraniums.   :)
    Me neither - maybe Kentish slugs are made of tougher stuff!! :)

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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