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Choosing a Rose for the Right Place

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  • TopbirdTopbird Posts: 8,355
    Sorry to to butt in 🤭 - but thanks for the heads up about Ivor's Rose @Marlorena . Great-nephew arrived 2 weeks ago - and he's called Ivor. I'm thinking this rose might make a rather nice 'Welcome to the World' sort of present

    As it appears to only be a small rose (about 3' x 3') it would be ideal for new mum & dad's small first garden.
    Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Beales is being very conservative about the height and width measurements for that rose,  they must prune it hard...  it tends to grow much wider than tall.. it throws out big long shoots.. and you should be looking at something like 5 foot tall by as much as 8 or 10 feet wide after a few years, which is why I recommended it for fence training to Jason..    it reminds me of some of Austins 'joke' measurements for their roses, which are often much larger than stated.... I think they don't want to frighten people..lol..

    Still, I hope you like it, if you do decide to get it for your relatives... but you should be made aware of its growth habit...
    East Anglia, England
  • my first question. I've a small border south facing walled border which gets quite dry, I always add lots of manure during the winter, due to a cherry about 10 foot away. I want a smallish 2-3 foot pink repeat flowering highly scented rose.  I saw Comte de Chombard but wonder if it will be too big? Any suggestions please?
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    The rose you mention would be fine for your situation, but it is liable to defoliate somewhat around mid August.   My neighbour has 2, around 3-4 foot max, always in bloom, backed by a wall and in dryish soil, never tended or fed.. and have been there for several years, I pass them by every day...   So it meets all your requirements but it's not the healthiest rose in the book from late summer, as long as you are aware of that.... it's pretty good from May to Aug though... I grew it a long time ago and remember it for it's deliciously scented blooms.... it's one of the parents of the now better known rose 'Gertrude Jekyll'...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Whilst I'm here let me recommend you some others I like..
    'La Reine'.. 'La Reine Victoria'.. 'Louise Odier'... all these are fragrant, they might be a little taller than your needs...  some acceptance of disease pressure would be required with all these old roses..

    'Rose de Rescht'... this is a lovely Portland rose, always in bloom and surprisingly disease resistant...  sweetly scented blooms..  
    Here it is just starting another bloom session, photo taken in mid August, in a rose field... you can see the healthy unsprayed foliage...



    ..this one below is 'Chartreuse de Parme'.. this is a modern hybrid tea rose, which may not be to your liking if you like old roses, as I do.... however the scent will knock you out.. size and health assured..


    East Anglia, England
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