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A Rose for the hot and dry, plus a few others..

MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
If your roses are struggling in this extraordinary summer, then you might like to know about this one, which is called 'Mme. Antoine Mari', a Tea rose [not a hybrid tea], bred in France late 19th Century...   this rose tolerates anything that can be thrown at it, very hardy, withstands all winter conditions here, poor dry soil, needs no manuring, probably thrives without feeding, because these roses are thrifty and enjoy dry warm climates, like we are having this year...  you don't even need to prune it, this type of rose needs no fancy attention other than deadheading, you just let it grow to its capacity... which after 4 years will be about 4 x 4 foot...

It's also one of my first roses to bloom, sometimes from late April, or this year from May 12th..  and one of the last to finish late Autumn... always producing buds whatever the weather...  not everyone likes roses, and these are an acquired taste I think...

You won't find it in a garden centre though...





taken yesterday... the blooms change colour and shape over time...  no water, no sprays... healthy foliage...






...this old fashioned rose has stood the test of time, for good reasons...
East Anglia, England

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...here are some other plants doing well right now...

    Ceanothus 'Gloire de Versailles'... flowers from June to late Autumn..


    Trachelospermum jasminoides…


    Clematis 'Prince Charles'...


    Linum perenne 'Album'  perennial white flax, evergreen shrub for frontage..


    Clematis 'Niobe' with some blooms of 'Rosemoor' Austin climbing rose..

    East Anglia, England
  • Jason-3Jason-3 Posts: 391
    Thank you marlorena I always enjoy reading your posts re roses. Doe that rose have any tolerance of shade.

     As I have a visually perfect spot on my terraced front garden. But the spot gets around 6 hours sunlight per day
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Thanks Jason... 6 hours is usually fine for most roses, providing the shade is not caused by overhanging trees...   the sun does not reach my rose until after mid day...
    East Anglia, England
  • Jason-3Jason-3 Posts: 391
    Yup a 80 foot sycamore 😣 the roots on the tree won't be a problem as the terrace is 15 feet higher than than its root run and 20 feet away.

    A small acer grows well in the spot currently and gets 4 hours full sun in the morning and between 2-3 in the afternoon 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    hmmm.... I would try a different rose in that spot Jason,.. the rose above shouldn't really be anywhere near a tree...   this one below 'The Ancient Mariner' an Austin, grows well in a part shady corner for me...  it needs a couple of years to get going, but when it does... it's now about 6 x 5 foot....


    ..beautifully scented, exquisite blooms...



    East Anglia, England
  • ChrisWMChrisWM Posts: 214
    Excellent rose, that “Mme. Antoine Mari”, Marlorena. A bit of a concern though, as my roses are approximately 9 feet away from our elder at the closest, with the remaining three roses at appropriate spacings further away per rose, if that makes sense. 

    I already had the intention of giving the elder a good trim this winter, as it casts too much shade.  The roses get plenty of sunlight even now though. I suppose though, you’re thinking of tree roots?
    If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need. Cicero
  • Jason-3Jason-3 Posts: 391
    Marlorena said:
    hmmm.... I would try a different rose in that spot Jason,.. the rose above shouldn't really be anywhere near a tree...   this one below 'The Ancient Mariner' an Austin, grows well in a part shady corner for me...  it needs a couple of years to get going, but when it does... it's now about 6 x 5 foot....


    ..beautifully scented, exquisite blooms...




    Thanks marlorena ....its a beauty for sure. I was originally looking at scepter'd isle . Which would say was better for the position described...and sorry to digress from your original post.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Jason, that's a tough one to answer for me, I think 'Scepter'd Isle' would be my choice of these, I just love its colour and scent which is very strong, on a shapely bush.  It grows north facing in my garden, so does well with not very much in the way of sun...

    Chris... the only roses I have grown near trees are the ramblers which are made to climb them, otherwise I try to steer well away, not only the roots but the branches cast the kind of shade roses don't like.  Rain has trouble getting to them too if shaded by trees, and they just look dry and unhappy...

    Shady sites are generally fine for most roses, providing the shade comes from buildings in the way, I don't find that a problem... I grow some with barely a few hours sun and that's from May to August... none in winter, and they do well. Austin roses in particular...
    This is 'Thomas a Becket'... grown as a climber... gets no sun until 3pm and then only in summer... dark and sunless most of the year but the shade is from my house..


    East Anglia, England
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