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New climbing rose - can it be trained in the first year?

OxfordColourOxfordColour Posts: 16
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Hello there.. 

I'm hoping someone would be able to offer some advice please? 

I planted 2 new climbing roses in March and they're making good progress.

I've watched and read up on how to train them but some advice I've received has said not to train the rose for the first year?

Can anyone confirm this please? 

Thanks in advance  

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited June 2018
    Hi, I don't think they would be big enough to worry about yet. But it's good to have a plan for where it is to go - up a trellis etc.
  • OxfordColourOxfordColour Posts: 16
    Thanks fire.. Already have the wires in place. The rose's are making good progress and are already at the height of the first wire.. Maybe I'll leave them for this year and start next year..
  • SuesynSuesyn Posts: 664
    I haven't heard that before, I planted a climbing rose last autumn and have been tying it in as it grows. I saw Monty Don plant one 18 months ago and recently saw it in the background when he was doing something else and it definitely looked as if it had been trained. It was about 2m tall, fanned out across a lovely stone wall and covered in flowers. I hope I haven't been doing it all wrong! 
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    If you want to train them,it's best to do it when the branches are still 'whippy'. It's much harder when they become woody and you risk snapping them off.
    Nudge them gently in the right direction for now
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • IamweedyIamweedy Posts: 1,364
    I am new to all roses mine are just begining a third year. They have just begun to start growing really well. 

    The Rambling Rector is well away and does what he will, The growth rate is very fast.


    For the ordinary roses I need to get a base of stems which will grow strongly and not look feeble.
      I think the secret lies in the pruning, or not. I really could do with watching someone and explaining how to do it. 



    'You must have some bread with it me duck!'

  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited June 2018
    When I said "I don't think they would be big enough to worry about yet", it of course, depends on what type of rose you have. All the ones I have are fairly small, so training is a not big deal.


    Last year I started rotational pruning of climbers, where you take out the woodiest stem, leaving fresh new canes. It has made a tremendous difference and is like having a new plant every year. You can train the young, green canes much more easily and they put on a lot more growth. I'm not suggesting this for a new plant, but do bear it in mind. When I first started with roses, I thought climbing roses created a permanent structure that just grew and grew.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Keep rampant rector well pruned unless you've got a huge garden - and I mean HUGE  :)
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    @Fire I agree ... Paul Zimmerman's videos on how to prune and train roses for different situations are brilliant  B)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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