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Roses Help. My garden is full of roses, climbers,bush,patio and they have all gone like this image.

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  • Scoured the internet and cant find anything. Strange that all my roses in four separate gardens are like this but our neighbours are all fine.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited June 2018
    That looks to me as if it could be herbicide damage?   

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=462

    Is it possible that a container previously used for weedkiller has been used to spray something on the roses?

    Or have you applied stable manure from a new supplier, or mulched with grass clippings that have previously been treated with weedkiller?



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845
    edited June 2018
    Ahhh now this is getting interesting, all of my climbers have gone like this. I wrote to a well know organisation I am a member of and they thought it might have been manure/feed burn.  I did chuck a lot of horse manure down. Never done  it before and didn’t realise it shouldn’t touch the stems. Did you feed just before the warm days cold nights of late April?  Marlorena is a member of this firummand she is a rose expert. Have a look at one if the rise threads under problems and ask her
    good luck, I am going to ignore mine this year and hope they throw a new shoot
    BTW Dove, my horse manure was bought from B & Q. I have since read they are notorious for selling off last years stock?

    Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
    A A Milne
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited June 2018
    @Lily Pilly    To me it looks very like the effects of a herbicide, possibly contaminated manure/mulch ... I hope it isn't ...
     
    "Clopyralid and composting of mowings:

    Weedkillers containing clopyralid (e.g. Vitax LawnClear 2, Vitax Green Up Lawn Liquid Feed & Weed and Scotts Weedol Lawn Weedkiller) have to be used with especial caution. This herbicide binds to leaves and stems which is useful in preventing accidental damage and pollution, but mowings retain active herbicide. Once bound to grass the herbicide takes time to break down. For this reason it is essential that the label recommendations are followed concerning disposal of mowings. Typically this will involve avoiding composting the first mowings after treatment or using them as a mulch. The ideal way to dispose of such mowings is to mow frequently or with a mulching mower so that clippings fall back into the sward. If this is not possible we suggest composting mowings separately and later applying composted material only to turf.

    Manufacturers may also give a period of composting for subsequent mowings (but not the first mowing) after which the herbicide will have decayed – typically this will be around 9 months. Treated clippings should not be added to municipal green waste composting as there is the risk of spreading contaminated compost. Also some councils will not accept green material in ordinary domestic waste or for landfill at waste disposal centres. In such cases dealing with treated grass in the garden is the only option as well as good practice.

    A number of cases in 2016 suggest some sources of growing media (e.g. growbags) may be contaminated with hormonal weedkiller, most likely from composted green waste containing clopyralid. See section below on how to run a germination test if you suspect a compost may be a source of weedkiller residues."   https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=462 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    Looks like weedkiller damage to me too, if your neighbours are not affected I would suspect you have put compost or mulch that was contaminated on them. (or muddled up your watering cans or sprayers, if you use weedkillers yourself)
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited June 2018
    A shocking sight, has someone been busy with glyphosate/Round Up..?  I'm sorry about your roses, all you can do is try and flush it through by hosing each one from top to toe and drenching the root system, thoroughly..  the canes are green so they should recover in time...  


    I should add that Round Up damage is indicated by weird ribbon like leaves and stunted growth, rather like you have there.  When it starts to reshoot and I hope it will, you might have to do some severe pruning out of the affected parts.. but for now, copious water to try wash it out is all you can do I'm afraid...
    East Anglia, England
  • Thank you all for replying. All i have done this year, as every year, is feed each rose with Miracle Grow Slow Release plant food. No mulch or spray, so gutted, as this time of the year garden is usually full of colour and scent. Decided to hard prune half and leave the others to see what happens.
  • Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845
    Martinjwoods. I really sympathise. Mine are looking worse today
    Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
    A A Milne
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    It's not what you have done in this case, it seems it's what someone else has done near you and you have caught the drift..  it's been windy lately and it's drifted onto your roses, that's what I think has happened here..
    East Anglia, England
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,384
    It looks a bit like Rose rosette disease to me.  This is a virus which causes 'witches broom' on wild roses but is reported to be spreading into gardens.  Either way, what a rotten turn of events.

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
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