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Troublesome cats

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  • Daisy33Daisy33 Posts: 1,031
    edited May 2018
    @wild edges And no one is blaming cats, they're blaming cat owners."

    Errumm, not quite true. I think murderer was mentioned at one point...unless, of course...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    How can you take responsibility for a Magpie who raids nests as a hobby? Wildlife supporters always manage to omit the fact that birds raid other birds nests and destroy the eggs. But no...blame the cat when birds do it mostly themselves and always have done.
     @Daisy33 🙂 I think it's true.


    You're missing the whole point. The magpie is wild and part of the natural ecosystem ... it feeds on eggs and nestlings in order for its own species to survive. That's how ecology works. 

    Cats are domesticated and are not part of the natural ecology of an area   and they are fed by their owners. They do not need to kill birds in order to survive. 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Daisy33Daisy33 Posts: 1,031
    Actually Dove, there are many examples of brutal behaviour in nature which do not enhance ecology...it is just that, nature, instinct perhaps as Hazel said.

    You can take the animal out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the animal.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    It's not a case of enhancing ecology ... ecology just is. 

    It it only needs enhancing when mankind has interfered. 

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Daisy33 said:


    You can take the animal out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the animal.
    so if you cat comes into my garden and my dog kills it, can we just shrug our shoulders together and blame it on instinct?
    Devon.
  • Daisy33Daisy33 Posts: 1,031
    Absolutely not so Dove. There are examples of gang rape in birds, murder in baboons, cannibalism in fish...mankind has not interfered here. And there seems to be no reason for these things to happen.
  • Daisy33Daisy33 Posts: 1,031
    Hostafan1 said:
    Daisy33 said:


    You can take the animal out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the animal.
    so if you cat comes into my garden and my dog kills it, can we just shrug our shoulders together and blame it on instinct?
    Absolutely. Happened to a cat we owned. My family had moved her from our home in Africa, quarantine in England, lived 16 years in the Americas. She was killed by guard dogs.
    Sad though. :(

  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497

    Daisy33 said:
    Absolutely not so Dove. There are examples of gang rape in birds, murder in baboons, cannibalism in fish...mankind has not interfered here. And there seems to be no reason for these things to happen.
    and apparently there are examples of extreme anthropomorphism in humans...
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Daisy33Daisy33 Posts: 1,031
    @wild edges 
    anthropomorphism...easy for you to say. :D

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited May 2018
    Daisy33 said:
    Absolutely not so Dove. There are examples of gang rape in birds, murder in baboons, cannibalism in fish...mankind has not interfered here. And there seems to be no reason for these things to happen.
    But you're ascribing a human moral code to the natural activities of animals ...  that's nonsense. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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