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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I find it a mark of the arrogance of cat owners that they believe others are expected to find ways to keep their animals from our gardens, than them keeping their foul , stinking , killer pets within their own gardens.
    Too much effort on their part I suppose.
    Nobody is compelled to own a cat, but if you do, you should be held responsible for everything that cat does.
    Devon.
  • Kitty 2Kitty 2 Posts: 5,150
    Not all cat owners are arrogant @Hostafan1 . Some are kind and friendly people who take in the cats and kittens which are the result of irresponsible owners who do not chose to train or neuter their pets.

    I do acknowledge that i am responsible for my two rescue cats, and have maintained my indoor litter trays for sixteen years (my old girl would be disgusted at the idea of going outdoors, perish the thought😮).
    And can i add that she has never killed a bird or even a bug in her life. No presents for me, she spends her days mostly snoozing. She's well fed and has no urge to "hunt".

    Our second rescue kitten,4yrs old, has a twin in another household we have contact with, who brings home frogs/mice and allsorts.
    Our Norris never does. She again doesn't bother.  It's down to the owners.
    Please don't tar us all with the same brush 😊.






  • Daisy33Daisy33 Posts: 1,031
    Absolutely Kitty. I have been a cat owner all my life, would love to have been a dog owner too but out at work too much.
    Yes, my cats have caught mice, rats, frogs, birds...that is nature. I don't consider them
    "foul , stinking , killer pets" :s:(:o:/
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited May 2018
    Sorry Kitty, I should have said " some owners" 
    Daisy, domestic cats are nothing to do with Nature. 
    In nature, animals find their own homes, shelter, food  and they're solely responsible for bringing up their young .
    Domestic pets do none of this exclusively  and in nature animals don't get whisked off to the vet with every sniffle.
    In nature animals don't kill for fun, domestic cats most certainly do.
    I repeat, I DO consider them to be "foul , stinking , killer pets"
    On this we shall agree to disagree.
    Dare I mention the millions of animals , raised in near factory conditions, which are reared , merely to be slaughtered, then chopped up and put into pet food? Is that nature too?
    Devon.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    IanC63 said:
    A cat is someone's pet - that person should be responsible for that pet.  To allow a pet to be a nuisance to someone else is simply anti social behaviour.

    If you are aware that your cat(s) are fouling outside your own garden, then you should take steps to stop this happening.

    Cats are NOT wild animals and their behaviour can be regulated if the owner is willing to make the effort. 




    How?
    What steps to you suggest?
    Cat proofing their own gardens so that they stay in them would be a start Ian - instead of everyone else having to do it to keep them out of theirs. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    I know it's difficult to keep your cat in your own garden but if you decide to keep a pet then I'm afraid that is what you should do. It's unfair on the animal to allow it to roam free and run the risk of getting run over and unfair on your neighbors to allow it to foul their gardens.  Cats are pets not wild animals. 
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
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  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    I don't consider my post as ugly. I think it was a very polite and considered response 
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
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  • Phew. What a hornets nest I've stepped into! As a cat owner and a gardener.
    1. I tend to take in older rescue cats (all neutered etc) which tend to have lost the natural urge to hunt, but yes, younger cats do hunt.
    2. I have indoor and outdoor litter trays (out door one tucked down the sideway and filled with soil. However, yes, they do still "go" outdoors
    3. Cats can be kept as indoor pets but not if they have been used to roaming, to confine them under those circumstances is cruel.
    4. Some people do have cat compounds in larger gardens usually if they have a specialist breed which needs protection (think aviary for posh moggies).
    5. Some countries  have introduced legislation, one of the Australian states I believe says cats should be kept indoors between dusk and dawn to reduce predation. Perhaps UK?
    6. I agree that there are too many irresponsible owners (same with dogs) who don't vaccinate or neuter and that the feral problem is appalling, Just starting kitten season and the rescue group I support will shortly be overrun, but at least they are trying to do something about it!
    7. I support my neighbour who uses a super soaker on my cats as a detterent, cats hate water, and they seem to have got the message!
    All I can say is Sorry......BUT!

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