Mirror signal move it. Usually around 150 years before a junction depending on traffic conditions.
I find people react better to the truck (2 ton of solid metal bumper and windscreen height) than they do the Peugeot (1 ton of plastic).
That said I watched (I was about 8 cars back) a learner driver roll into a roundabout a few weeks back - make a complete hash of it and stall across two lanes. Why the instructor didn't seem to take charge I've no idea but other cars just kept pushing past on both sides while clearly the poor learner for more and more flustered. Fortunately I was in the truck so I just blocked the whole roundabout off (perks of orange flashing lights in the roof) behind them to give them the two minutes they needed to sort things out. No one blasted their horn at me or tried to squeeze past (like I say amazing how solid metal bumpers makes a person change their driving style) but it made me realise...
Most of us seem to lock ourselves in the car and like lemmings follow others without any thought about what if. If the first car hasn't pushed past I bet the others wouldn't have done either and the learner might not have panicked. But when one goes it's almost a challenge to get through too regardless.
When we had the beast from the east I stopped at every broken down car, every car in the hedge / ditch / bizzare angle to make sure people were u hurt and safe. To offer help when I could. No one else did. One woman said she'd been stuck for thirty minutes and all she needed was reassurance and a shove to put her back in the right direction.
We need to start rolling our windows down and working together a bit more rather than like isolated bubbles in a stream.
I get car sick so am rarely a passenger in a car - almost always driving. It is noticeable how the car you drive changes the way other drivers behave - we have an improbable number of vehicles for 2 people. Even the same car with or without a roof-rack makes a difference - everyone tries to overtake when the roof rack is on.
After a few years driving though, do you notice that cars have body language? You can often tell that someone is about to 'Do Something' (though not what they are going to do). I remember driving in Bath one time, the car in front of me was 'fidgeting' so I was hanging back. OH said "Why are you slow....WOAH. WTF is he doing?" as the car did a completely unsignalled U-turn in the middle of traffic. Maybe it's driving in England too much makes you twitchy - all those husbands driving without indicators
Out here in The Sticks it's usually people driving far too fast and too close to horses that make me cringe. We met a riderless horse in the road - couldn't catch him, he ran right past us, so we drove on looking for the rider. Luckily she was fine (and so was the horse, we heard later). But she said a couple of people had driven past her waving merrily as she tried to flag them down for help.
Life in a bubble, as you say
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I tend to go against how it's generally done here. I notice that 'signal as you start to move' thing and I don't understand it. I signal and wait (sometimes) for someone to slow and pull back slightly. If that doesn't happen I mooch a bit and make 'em. The rest of the time I drive like a nut apparently. Some people just don't make very good passengers I say! (The words 'Toad of Toad b****y Hall have been incanted!). Parp parp! As a (fair weather) motor cyclist, I'm afraid I have to assume everyone is a blind moron trying to write me off!!!! I love driving! Love it love it love it!
Mirror signal move it. Usually around 150 years before a junction depending on traffic conditions.
I think that's a bit excessive
I do signal quite early. It drives me nuts, when I'm trying to pull out from a side road and turn right, when the idiot approaching from my right either doesn't indicate at all or indicates immediately before turning left into my road. By then the car behind him is too close for me to be able to pull out and I'm stuck there waiting for then chance.
My ex drove a "nice" car. One day he had to borrow my chug mobile and said he couldn't believe how differently people behaved. He nearly got cut in two a couple of times!! He was absolutely shocked. RG do cars have body language or do we develop instincts for numptyism?
Mirror, singnal (well in advance) manouvre, slow down if turning left. Cars, people behaving differentl, my Hubby now has front and rear car cams, every single day near misses, signals well inadvance, been rear ended several times WHILST staionery at junction and roundabout, the last was MY car, totaled it was his so hard, it wasnt delicate, was a chunky esate. I had better not name on here, but there are drivers of a couple of particular cars, who always drive like arogant so-and-sos,male,female, old,young doesnt make any difference! I passed both the "advanced" and "high performance" with a Police Examiner, who told me I COULD dirve!Hubby has been in the Motor trade since he was 15, now 61, and he cannot explain to me why 1 in 3 cars were built WITHOUT indicators! I came along just after a massive accident last week on Plawhatch Road, just outside Sharpthorne, West Sussex, the Police car came along soon after me, then he ambulance. There these are small country roads, on the left there is a lane to Standen (National Trust) and East Grinstead, there must have been one car on the Plawhatch road, the other comming out of the left hand junction, it was on its side the other side of the road in the hedge. Hubby, as soon as I sarted menting said the exact spot, said he saw a 3 car pile up there last week, has had several vehicles pull right out in front of him there. Stanard of driving is disgusting, dangerous. We had someone pull over fron the right hand lane in front of us a couple of weeks back, Hubby had to jamb the brakes on, tooted, then we got the language, the fingers, hubby pointed to the camera, then the bloke suddenly jumbed HIS brakes on, obviously hoping we would go in the back of him, after speeding up. Then he drove down the road at 14-20mph in a 50 zone, obviously being "funny", we debated putting it on the Police dangerous driving site, bu thought if we had to go to cort or whatever guy finds out who you are where you live, who knows what he is capable of!
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Usually around 150 years before a junction depending on traffic conditions.
I find people react better to the truck (2 ton of solid metal bumper and windscreen height) than they do the Peugeot (1 ton of plastic).
That said I watched (I was about 8 cars back) a learner driver roll into a roundabout a few weeks back - make a complete hash of it and stall across two lanes. Why the instructor didn't seem to take charge I've no idea but other cars just kept pushing past on both sides while clearly the poor learner for more and more flustered.
Fortunately I was in the truck so I just blocked the whole roundabout off (perks of orange flashing lights in the roof) behind them to give them the two minutes they needed to sort things out. No one blasted their horn at me or tried to squeeze past (like I say amazing how solid metal bumpers makes a person change their driving style) but it made me realise...
Most of us seem to lock ourselves in the car and like lemmings follow others without any thought about what if. If the first car hasn't pushed past I bet the others wouldn't have done either and the learner might not have panicked. But when one goes it's almost a challenge to get through too regardless.
When we had the beast from the east I stopped at every broken down car, every car in the hedge / ditch / bizzare angle to make sure people were u hurt and safe. To offer help when I could. No one else did. One woman said she'd been stuck for thirty minutes and all she needed was reassurance and a shove to put her back in the right direction.
We need to start rolling our windows down and working together a bit more rather than like isolated bubbles in a stream.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
After a few years driving though, do you notice that cars have body language? You can often tell that someone is about to 'Do Something' (though not what they are going to do). I remember driving in Bath one time, the car in front of me was 'fidgeting' so I was hanging back. OH said "Why are you slow....WOAH. WTF is he doing?" as the car did a completely unsignalled U-turn in the middle of traffic. Maybe it's driving in England too much makes you twitchy - all those husbands driving without indicators
Out here in The Sticks it's usually people driving far too fast and too close to horses that make me cringe. We met a riderless horse in the road - couldn't catch him, he ran right past us, so we drove on looking for the rider. Luckily she was fine (and so was the horse, we heard later). But she said a couple of people had driven past her waving merrily as she tried to flag them down for help.
Life in a bubble, as you say
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
The rest of the time I drive like a nut apparently.
As a (fair weather) motor cyclist, I'm afraid I have to assume everyone is a blind moron trying to write me off!!!!
I love driving! Love it love it love it!
I do signal quite early. It drives me nuts, when I'm trying to pull out from a side road and turn right, when the idiot approaching from my right either doesn't indicate at all or indicates immediately before turning left into my road. By then the car behind him is too close for me to be able to pull out and I'm stuck there waiting for then chance.
RG do cars have body language or do we develop instincts for numptyism?