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Will either of these roses be ok in dappled shade?

B3B3 Posts: 27,505
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I have a Tess of the D'Urbervilles and a deep secret rose. They have both been in containers for a few years, but I would like to plant them in the ground.
The site would have dappled shade  facing westish with a few hours of direct sun in the afternoon.
Would either or both do ok?
In London. Keen but lazy.

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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    My Tess doesn't have sun all day and she's OK. A few hours of sun should be fine.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
     
    Thanks  BL. Now I need to persuade OH to dig really big hole!
    This will free up a nice big terracotta planter. There was a beigy browny rose I fancied but I can't remember the name.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Peter Beales say deep secret rose is only for containers, full sun and a sheltered warm spot. Quite unusual, it seems. I don't know the rose, but it does look lovely. Perhaps quite a temperamental princess for UK climates.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I'll keep that one in the container then. Thanks fire. I've found it quite tolerant though and it was the first to come into leaf this spring.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    As they say, roses don't read the books. I inherited the most glorious cream rose, which I think is Nephitos (it's hard to know). My favourite thing in the garden. According to the link it is a princess and needs cosseting. Apparently it's best grown in greenhouses. Yet it thrives in my garden and is the first to bud.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I had a Tess in a west facing position but on a trellis between two bits of garden so exposed to easterly Siberian winds.  She sort of did OK except after really bad winters but then I had to dig her up and put her in a pot so I could remove the trellis to let a digger go past to excavate a new shed base.

    She loved it in a huge pot in full sun facing south and recovered well and grew much better.  I eventually re-planted her in a more sheltered spot facing SSW and with shelter from cold winds and she did very well with lovely flowers and perfume.  Should have taken cuttings for this garden.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
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  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    B3 I think the rose you mean might be "Buff Beauty", an unusual shade of browny-pink as you say, I keep meaning to try it but just don't have room.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    It's a sheltered spot I have in mind. Maybe I should move the  container down there and see how she goes.
    The name of the beigy rose has come to me. I think it was buff beauty.

    In London. Keen but lazy.
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